Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don't know where they're ultimately heading to though.
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How do you know it's an ICE truck? What does it look like? I've seen white ones in videos, but surely they don't all look the same.
You could tell because it had fanciful decorations of ice cream cones and candy on the sides and it had a big horn loudspeaker playing "Turkey in the Straw". You see them all the time just driving slowly up and down the neighborhood streets.
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They want another Kent State
Is it gonna be Kent State or Tiananmen Square?
First one, then the other
More like Concord or Lexington
Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, four dead in Ohio.
This summer I hear the drumming.
Time to fuck up some fascist. Someone is going to get domed soon when the current escalation.
Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.
OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.
Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.
e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?
My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.
I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?
Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.
Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.
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Im not sure but I believe after 911, national guard units were deployed to Iraq (which had nothing to do with 911) by order of the president. I believe that if the president declares an emergency then they can use the national guards however they want.
It would make sense if Congress were required in this decision making process but that would be out of character for a fascist criminal ring
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I would like to see California boldly and forcefully repel this invasion, but I don't know how it would work.
The California National Guard is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal-state military reserve force.
When National Guard troops are called to federal service, the president serves as Commander-In-Chief. The federal mission assigned to the National Guard is: "To provide properly trained and equipped units for prompt mobilization for war, national emergency or as otherwise needed."
The governor of California may call individuals or units of the California National Guard into state service during emergencies or special situations. The state mission of the National Guard is: "To provide trained and disciplined forces for domestic emergencies or as otherwise provided by state law."
Role: Organized militia
Size: 24,000
If the governor activates them first, it limits the reasons the president can activate them and override the governor.
Of course Trump would try to do it anyway, meaning the NG commander would have to decide who to follow (and let's be real, it would probably be the president).
States giving up their military power was a mistake. States need to rebuild and restore their State Guards/State Defense Forces. The ability to federalize the National Guard removes its ability to function as the State Militias that it replaced.
No, the mistake was the complete corruption of US politics through naked graft and a FPTP voting system leading to extremist views being the only rallying opposition to reasonable stances.
The government needs to get purged of lobbyists and money.
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State militias were never intended to fight the national government. In fact, they were intended to help fight insurrection.
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
No, being able to federalize them was intended. We weren't supposed to have a standing federal army, only call them up from the militias as needed.
Turned out pretty quick that that didn't work too well in reality.
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Activate the to defend the border. West coast Pacific Ocean border.
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What’s to stop Cali national guard from ignoring Orange man? Or maybe I have been watching/reading too much fiction.
Drawing the ire of the federal government. If their commander refuses, he'll be removed and replaced with someone who will comply.
That commander is appointed by the CA governor, and I don't see Newsom fighting the feds on this (or much of anything, really, so far it's only been joint lawsuits against economic issues). Conceivably, Trump could argue that when federalized, he could remove the commander himself and appoint an interim commander, or just leave it unfilled and have DoD control them directly.
The national guard is under federal control. California will have its own state guard.
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New rage against the machine album coming...
The "L.A. 92" part of this song needs an "L.A. 25" update.
Bring ‘em.
Other states, you know what to do.
raise hell!