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[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 1 hour ago

elon could do the funniest thing here and declare open rebellion against tyranny

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Are the Europeans proud of our protests yet?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 4 points 1 hour ago

It is coming.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

And so it begins.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Buy guns, learn how to use them

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

On it. Now I just need friends. If you see a guy in green, that might be me.

I figure we need a suitable color to separate ourselves from the politics of yore.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Just saw an ICE truck carrying a bunch of jackboots through Echo Park. Don't know where they're ultimately heading to though.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago

hopefully they're headed to the Santa Monica pier, where they accidentally drive off the end and into the ocean

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

How do you know it's an ICE truck? What does it look like? I've seen white ones in videos, but surely they don't all look the same.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 hours ago

It was a big black unmarked truck full of black armor wearing soldier types hanging off the sides. I'm no expert on cop sightings but I'm pretty sure even they have their emblem on the sides of their heavy duty vehicles. Besides, isn't it their MO nowadays to go everywhere wearing balaclavas without visible insignias or name tags?

[–] Biggles@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 4 hours ago

You could tell because it had fanciful decorations of ice cream cones and candy on the sides and it had a big horn loudspeaker playing "Turkey in the Straw". You see them all the time just driving slowly up and down the neighborhood streets.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago

How do you know it's an ICE truck

It was driven by Brian Moser AKA Rudy Cooper

[–] IckabodKobain@feddit.online 76 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They want another Kent State

[–] mokus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is it gonna be Kent State or Tiananmen Square?

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 30 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

More like Concord or Lexington

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Time to fuck up some fascist. Someone is going to get domed soon when the current escalation.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 86 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is what 2A is for. This is what Madison feared.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 5 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

That is exactly how we embolden fascism. Madison advocated for a well-regulated militia, not 1-2% of the population throwing cinder blocks and M80s. We needed numbers before allowing them to bait us into escalation.

Hegseth has the Marines standing by, and the Insurrection Act will be next. This is Trump’s Reichstag Fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

Edit: Please share this.

Oath

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 110 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, four dead in Ohio.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago

This summer I hear the drumming.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 59 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Fucking newspapers these days, this shit is important.

https://archive.ph/3X3Fe

OK, so the same shit about "trump is going to". last I heard newsom was in charge of CA NG. Trump isn't allowed to bring them up without a declaration of emergency or whatever.

Just bullshit that they will walk back in the morning.

e: LA times and AP seem to think this is actually happening. This is the boiling point; are you going to sit in the pot or jump out?

[–] mean_bean279@lemmy.world 23 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

My only complaint (and I get to blame Regan) is that we can’t open carry here in Cali. That would help stop a lot of federal response if we had that capacity again.

I’m not for destroying government property since that’s property that belongs to the people, but I also respect that change doesn’t happen with complacency. Plus if it was a peaceful protest for Jan 6ers then why is this not considered one?

Every day I wish we didn’t have the current admin in charge since they lack capacity and bandwidth to take care of the real economic issues facing our generation and time.

Completely agree though that the national guard is in control of the governor. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Newsom agrees to bring them in if the feds kick in FEMA funding like they’re supposed to.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Open carry would have stopped NOTHING.

Flashing a gun at those GI Joe wannabes would have triggered their tiny brains to go into shoot to kill mode, and it would have been a massacre.

These dimwits are trained for full blown military responses. That's easy for them, they have the gear, the training, and the psychopaths to shoot on sight.

What they can't handle is massive civil disobedience, because they can't arrest 100k, 500k, 1 million people who are out there lawfully protesting.

But it's nutjobs like you, or that moron who sped their car at the agents, who will fuck it up for everyone.

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Don't bring your gun. Keep it at home, and if shit gets to the point where they start killing people, then defend yourself.

With what? Left weapon at home.

[–] PirateFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 minutes ago

This is the correct response at this point.

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[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Im not sure but I believe after 911, national guard units were deployed to Iraq (which had nothing to do with 911) by order of the president. I believe that if the president declares an emergency then they can use the national guards however they want.

It would make sense if Congress were required in this decision making process but that would be out of character for a fascist criminal ring

[–] who@feddit.org 39 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

I would like to see California boldly and forcefully repel this invasion, but I don't know how it would work.

The California National Guard is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal-state military reserve force.

When National Guard troops are called to federal service, the president serves as Commander-In-Chief. The federal mission assigned to the National Guard is: "To provide properly trained and equipped units for prompt mobilization for war, national emergency or as otherwise needed."

The governor of California may call individuals or units of the California National Guard into state service during emergencies or special situations. The state mission of the National Guard is: "To provide trained and disciplined forces for domestic emergencies or as otherwise provided by state law."

Role: Organized militia
Size: 24,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_National_Guard

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If the governor activates them first, it limits the reasons the president can activate them and override the governor.

Of course Trump would try to do it anyway, meaning the NG commander would have to decide who to follow (and let's be real, it would probably be the president).

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 9 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

States giving up their military power was a mistake. States need to rebuild and restore their State Guards/State Defense Forces. The ability to federalize the National Guard removes its ability to function as the State Militias that it replaced.

[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 38 points 6 hours ago

No, the mistake was the complete corruption of US politics through naked graft and a FPTP voting system leading to extremist views being the only rallying opposition to reasonable stances.

The government needs to get purged of lobbyists and money.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 5 hours ago

State militias were never intended to fight the national government. In fact, they were intended to help fight insurrection.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

No, being able to federalize them was intended. We weren't supposed to have a standing federal army, only call them up from the militias as needed.

Turned out pretty quick that that didn't work too well in reality.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Activate the to defend the border. West coast Pacific Ocean border.

[–] malloc@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

What’s to stop Cali national guard from ignoring Orange man? Or maybe I have been watching/reading too much fiction.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago

Their feelings. Soldiers are humans, not machines. They will go with their hearts and minds to decide whom they fight for.

Hopefully, they will decide to side with the good guys, not Agent 'Krasnov' Orange.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 9 points 5 hours ago

The national guard is under federal control. California will have its own state guard.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Drawing the ire of the federal government. If their commander refuses, he'll be removed and replaced with someone who will comply.

That commander is appointed by the CA governor, and I don't see Newsom fighting the feds on this (or much of anything, really, so far it's only been joint lawsuits against economic issues). Conceivably, Trump could argue that when federalized, he could remove the commander himself and appoint an interim commander, or just leave it unfilled and have DoD control them directly.

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

clashes

What kind of clash? A violent one or?

[–] dnick@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yep, really chickened out of deploying Gestapo.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

New rage against the machine album coming...

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 hours ago

The "L.A. 92" part of this song needs an "L.A. 25" update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbKcL7q8RJU

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago

Bring ‘em.

Other states, you know what to do.

[–] darthpub1@fedia.io 5 points 7 hours ago

raise hell!

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