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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This is bizarre. The info provided in the question was that Marty ate more than Luis, the question was how would that be possible given that Marty ate 4/6 of his while Luis ate 5/6 of his. The answer the kid wrote (Marty's pizza was bigger than Luis') is the only possible correct answer.

The grader is asserting that the information given in the question was wrong and that "actually it was Luis who ate more pizza"--even though it stated as a premise that "Marty ate more". How are you supposed to give a correct answer on a test if you are expected to accept one premise (proportion of pizzas eaten) while disregarding another premise (Marty ate more than Luis)? How do you decide which part to disregard? Would they have accepted the answer, "Luis actually only ate 3/6 of his pizza, not 5/6)"? Wouldn't that be just as valid an answer as "Marty actually didn't eat more than Luis"?

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Agree, this question is such hot shit that I can't imagine it popping up in any real world maths test

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[–] Mniot@programming.dev 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The title of this post is disappointing. The given answer is sound and it seems safe to assume it was arrived at by thinking mathematically.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Right? He's rationally explaining how that was possible given the question of "how" it is possible. In my opinion that question was written poorly.

[–] fiddledeedee@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

that kid passes my class with honors

the teacher is a moron

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Same. Question sucks. Teacher is a tool. Kid needs bonus points for a creative solution.

This always pissed me off about all formal school. They don't want a good answer, they don't even want the correct answer. They want you to give them the answer they previously told you to give them, regardless of all other factors.

Real life doesn't work like that. In reality, the "correct" answer is anything that completes the objective. In this scenario, the answer provided was reasonable, logical and most importantly, it was not incorrect.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 391 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

When I was in elementary, my teacher said that "Lutetia" was how the Romans called the city of Liege. As an avid reader of Asterix comics, I knew this isn't true and corrected her and said it was the Roman name of Paris. She insisted that it is Liege. Anyway, the next day, she came back to class and said that she looked it up and that I was indeed correct and Lutetia referred to Paris and gave me a chocolate bar and told me to keep reading comics. Good teacher.

[–] remon@ani.social 115 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

In elementary school our teacher asked us to spell the current year with roman numerals, so I worked out "MCMXCVIII", which I was quite proud of. But the teacher came back at me quite snarkyly and said it's much easier to just substract 2 from 2000, "IIMM" duh!

It was only many years later that I accidently learned that he was indeed full of shit and I was right all along.

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[–] sandflavoured@lemm.ee 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I suspect many commenters are missing the point, the student's response can only be the correct and expected answer to this question. Teacher has it wrong.

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[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 162 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The teacher is fucking stupid. The question says Marty ate more, that is not only possible it is a given.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The teacher is fucking stupid.

The teacher is likely under-trained, overworked, and under-qualified for the class. Common in districts where the focus of the administration is driving down the cost of education rather than delivering the highest quality.

That is, of course, assuming this is a real homework and not some agitprop churned out by a Facebook group or a social media account more interested in generating outrage than education.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

With the choice of marker, I'd say its rage bait.

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[–] Iambus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

This is genuinely baffling. What was that teacher on.

[–] waspentalive@lemmy.world 53 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Teachers that don't accept an unexpected but true answer are not teaching. The test taker had a correct take, one of the pizzas could be bigger than the other. It was not specified in the question. I am so glad I am out of school

[–] djehuti@programming.dev 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This answer shouldn't have been unexpected, seeing as how it's the correct answer.

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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Ah, a teacher that does not comprehend the barometer

Two other right answers:

  • Luis' pizza is at least smaller than Marty's (which is basically the same answer as the kid's)
  • Marty ate someone else's pizza besides his own

And, for funsies:

  • Luis' pizza is 50% crust, so it doesn't fully count as pizza
  • Luis doesn't like pizza and actually fed the dog while nobody was looking
  • Marty is many years older than Luis, therefore he has eaten many years' worth of pizza ahead of Luis
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[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 207 points 4 days ago (21 children)

Why would you ask "How is this possible" when you expect the answer to be "it's not"?

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 99 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Teacher got the worksheet from someone else and didn't know the answer.

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i can't fathom this being real, most probably this was made for karma farming or something.

[–] edgesmash@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Teachers like this exist. One of my kids had an elementary school teacher like this. Two examples:

  1. The math assignment was about currency denominations; what coins and bills you need to make up $7.42, for example. My kid answered using $2 bills (uncommon in the US but still printed), as we have them at home. Teacher marked the answer wrong because teacher didn't mention $2 bills in class.
  2. The writing assignment was to rewrite the Snow White story from the perspective of another character. My kid, having read a bunch of those "twisted tales" and recently fallen in love with "Wicked", wrote from the evil queen's perspective and made her a sympathetic character. Teacher marked her down for "changing the story" without acknowledging my kid's creativity. Teacher did not back down when we confronted her on this during our parent teacher conference.

(FWIW, in both cases we reassured our kid that they did great in both cases, and that we were proud of them.)

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Commendable for the kid to be thinking outside of the box, and a bit shitty of the teacher for not giving them maybe half a point (because it's a correct answer, but not the correct/expected answer). The test maker is also to blame - they should've taken care to eliminate all ambiguity - it's a math test after all.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The teachers response is incorrect. It is stated as fact that marty ate more pizza.

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[–] djehuti@programming.dev 25 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The kid's answer is the only correct answer. It's not half right, or 5/6 or 4/6 right. It's the only correct answer that fits the question. The teacher is a moron who has no business in a math classroom except as a remedial student.

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[–] plasticbuddha@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

The statement and question make perfect sense. The kid has the only "reasonable" answer.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

I... Um... I've been looking at this for a minute and I can't tell why the answer is unconventional, nor what the fuck the teacher is on about.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 41 points 3 days ago

The kid answered correctly, it's not unconventional at all, the teacher is just stupid

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[–] josefo@leminal.space 83 points 4 days ago (17 children)

If you state that Marty ate more as part of the question, you cannot answer in any other way, because it denies mathematical logic here. You introduced a lie as part of the problem, and if I need to decide myself which part of the statement is a lie, I can pick whatever I want, let's say, Marty didn't ate 4/6, but 6/6. This teacher should be taken to the gulag.

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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 103 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Take that to the principal, stupid teachers shouldn't teach

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Actually a kilogramme of feathers is heavier, because you have the weight on your conscience of what you had to do to those poor birds to get all those feathers.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Given 4/6 x > 5/6 y therefore x > 5/4 y

Marty's Pizza must have been more than a quarter larger than Luis'. The kid is exactly right.

And the teacher is not flexible enough to engage outside their expectations for how the question was supposed to be answered.

Clearly the expectation was for the kids to take the unstated assumption that the two pizzas were of the same size, and reject the premise as unreasonable (note the heading "Reasonableness").

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[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 77 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It is entirely possible and his answer was correct. Question was phrased incorrectly, if the teacher wanted an answer "it is not possible" he should have said both pizzas were the same size.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I can't find it now and I do not think it really applies here. But someone stated that being high IQ could lead to academic problems as the high IQ learner would understand or see things that the professor could not causing the professor to mark it as incorrect.

I guess this is the idiocracy version of it.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

A good teacher sees being corrected as a learning experience, and encourages their students to question them respectfully.

Bad teachers see it as a challenge to their authority.

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