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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The plan has been voluntary terraforming catastrophe for briefly high stock prices for many years.

[–] 211@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A little or a lot more every year. Though humanity is pretty resourceful and nature has tardigrades, "never say never" to some post-apocalyptic 10k populations of one or the other surviving somewhere.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right, collapse of modern civilization doesn't necessarily mean the extinction of humanity. We certainly won't be able to support 8-10 billion people, and not at the level of technology and luxury we enjoy, but I could see countries or cities with several million soldiering on.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just fear those surving peoples will be under authoritarian rule for generations

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the authority I guess. Controlled by science or controlled by god?

One is bad, and depending on who you are, it could be either.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You forgot option 3 controlled by people that want to maintain their power

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

That's probably the most likely.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Everyone in a position of power wants the planet to burn

If they wanted a different outcome they hold all the power and accountability.

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 7 points 2 months ago
[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

It the year was the first time trump got elected. The permafrost was melting and we went in the wrong direction. Its not so much if now as when.

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are many reasons to dread the future. An opportunity to watch the destruction of Florida is not one of them.

[–] Cygnean@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't it, essentially, become a giant sand bank of sorts?

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Of course. This will hold back humans getting off the planet for thousands of years. We got kind of close this round, will probably need another 3000-5000 years before the rock is left behind.

[–] LuigiMaoFrance@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

good. Humanity should rot in this hellhole. Other solar systems are better off without us. My only worry is human-built machines spreading our way of thinking in our stead.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I would hope by the time we get interstellar, we would have a different mindset. But you're right. Knowing humans we would strip mine most planets and kill all life that gets in the way.

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

If we dont kessler syndrome ourselves and get stuck here first

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

If petroleum ends up functionally depleted and it cannot be extracted from our cycle's detritus, it's more likely to be millions of years. Likely we will never leave this rock again.

[–] death@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago

Aw man I glanced at that chart thinking "oh that's pretty good!" before reading.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Civilisation is overrated anyway.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

350 came and went. Were doomed. The only question is how badly.

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago

Hold on, this roller coaster is just climbing up to the peak.