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The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday announced it will begin the process of pulling prescription fluoride drops and tablets for children off the market. The supplements are usually given to kids at high risk for cavities.

The federal government and some state legislatures are increasingly drawing attention to what they claim are the risks associated with fluoride, a mineral that’s been used for decades in community water systems, toothpastes and mouth rinses to prevent tooth decay.

Dentists fiercely contest the notion that the harms of fluoride outweigh the benefits.

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Cool, then regulate sugar in industrial food and beverage.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Regulations?! In trump’s America?! No way. It costs too much for shareholders

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Funny. We're soon going to see how much shareholders like an environment without regulation... like a working SEC.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Regulate it harshly these fuckers need to be sent to the gulag

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is such a fundamental change to get used to - some branches of government have been a meritocracy my entire life, doing their best to do the right thing, being careful to heed the best scientific advice, that my immediate reaction is to trust them. Then I remember we’re living in a time where the only qualification is personal loyalty and this particular circus is run by a clown

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

To be fair, the FDA was incompetent / hamstrung in many other areas before. The overriding purpose was to increase profit.

They, at least they are trying something new :D

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

When I said we should restrict children's tablets this is not what I meant, worm.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 228 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (36 children)

This is even more nuts than removing fluoride from municipal water systems. At least with that, parents who believe the science that their kids' teeth will be better off with targeted fluoride treatment can buy the drops and tablets, and those who are afraid for some reason can choose to just not use it.

This is just trying to ban access to fluoride entirely, despite research showing its benefits and the distinct lack of significant harm. Madness.

What next, are they going to criminalize sending fluoride drops/pills through the mail, like mifepristone?

Calgary, AB Canada removed fluoride and a decade later added it back after seeing the effects of its absence.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (8 children)

They just banned it in Florida, with Meatball DeSatan calling it "forced medication," and that if parents want their kids to have fluoride, they can give it to them. Now they want to ban those products, too.

So now we're just going to reconfigure our entire society to indulge the fantasies of conspiracy theory weirdos?

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[–] minnow@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is just trying to ban access to fluoride entirely

Well yeah. These are extremists, absolutists, radicals. Their dogma must be simple and without exceptions. If they admit even one scenario where fluoride has more benefits than deficits, their whole ideology and worldview crumbles. Nuance is an existential threat.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

So much for parents doing research and deciding if it's right for them. Yet another bad faith argument.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Time to stock up on fluoride I guess….

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 20 hours ago

Is there actually a need to? Does ingested fluoride do anything that toothpaste fluoride doesn't do?

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I beat the rush and stocked up in December, and I hate that that purchase is already feeling justified. One option to keep in mind as well is that tea is relatively good natural source of fluoride. So if things get bad enough, becoming an unsweetened tea-drinker might help.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its weird hearing americans have to specify 'un-sweetened' tea as if its not the norm

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I agree it's weird. As an American who grew up in an area where sweetened tea wasn't the norm, I hate having to specify. But I also don't have any faith left in my fellow countrymen, and feel like I have to make it clear for them.

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[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This reminds me of Swish. Did anyone else have Swish growing up?

It was this program and I think they did it because like the entire community was on well water. Once a month they came into our school and had us rinse our mouths with this really high fluoride mouthwash. We had to swish it for like 2 whole minutes or something that seemed like a long time as a child.

It was probably the only thing that saved my teeth growing up (neglectful parents).

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

We had this fluoride foam the dentist put on twice annually. Fruit-flavored foam, suctioned it back off, no rinse, and you couldn’t eat or drink for 30 minutes. Got that for a good number of years. I also recall that due to the combination of that, your city’s fluoridated water, and toothpaste, you could get these faint white spots in the middle of your teeth.

[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I remember doing this. Sometimes the flavor was good, other times it was sooo nasty. Didn't matter, had to keep swishing

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Next up: vitamin c tablets. We won't stop until scurvy is in full come back!

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago

Someone here recently said RFK is literally just Pestilence incarnate, and I don't think they are wrong. The dude is the Randall Flagg of diseases. Just waiting for his actual bugchaser arc. Then he'll plan a mass gathering and dissolve like Gravemind into deadly spores.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I bet C will stay forever because some successful marketing campaign convinced people it's a natural remedy against all types of colds and flu, despite being worthless for that cause. Science ain't got nothing on a good commercial.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

if you have basically any access to fresh food you don’t need to take vitamin C, even half a small potato will give you an entire days worth of of vitamin C and anything more than that will be peed out anyway. Unless you ban all fresh food people will be getting enough vitamin C, this isn’t a 1600s pirate ship, no one needs to supplement it, the supplements are a pure cash grab

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Vitamin C supplements are mostly bullshit anyway. Almost nobody needs them.

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[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I would've been so cooked. This will also just harm any neurodivergent kid with executive disfunction. That plus the autism registry shows a clear attack on neurodivergents.

[–] AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same! We moved to a place with well water when I was ~5 and my parents made me use the fluoride rinse

I hated it bc it was like an extra step, but I was literally the only kid in my school to never have cavities even though I would try to skip brushing all the time. And yeah you called it with the executive dysfunction, but didn't find out I had ADHD until I was an adult

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I grew up on well water. I still have well water as an adult. Finally swapping to a prescription grade flouride toothpaste is the only thing that has gotten my cavities in check. It's been a struggle my entire life.

Brushing twice a day did not matter. No sweets did not matter. I have basically no candy or sweet drink habits at all.

I can directly attribute my lifetime of cavity problems to non flourinated water. My dentist agrees.

This is going to wreck America's health.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

They're weeding out the "untermensch." The non-hetero, the mentally and physically disabled, the undesireable ethnicities, the criminals.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 113 points 2 days ago (3 children)

RFK Jr. strikes again. I'll never understand why people like him can't grasp the idea that the difference between medicine and poison is often dosage.

The amount of fluoride in these tablets is nowhere near unsafe levels. It's not even close.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 87 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

He literally doesn't believe in germ theory.

And I don't mean 'literally' as in 'figuratively'. He genuinely doesn't believe in the most basic element of modern health and medicine.

You can't expect him to then grasp something as nuanced as dosage.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Dude took his grandkids swimming in a sewage infested waterway... I mean, you expect someone like that to have even the loosest grasp of anything resembling nuance?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I really hope an amoeba finishes what the worm started.

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

That poor worm clearly starved to death

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Let's go all out and replace them with meth. Instead of protecting teeth, we'll eliminate them. Who needs a dentist when you have no teeth? Think of the savings!

Lisa needs braces.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago

great. next it will be banned in toothpaste and mouth rinses.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So - this started as a John Bircher thing right?

I’ve just been befuddled at the purpose and the point of this conspiracy theory. I guess Alex Jones’s dad is a dentist (and a Bircher) but I doubt that dentists conspire for us to have bad teeth.

Just generic “I don’t like the gubmit”? Was it a Jewish person who suggested that we improve dental health on a population level? What’s the initial bit of skin or hair that this stupid booger coalesced around?

I guess these weirdos have always been around. We just didn’t put them in charge of health.

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