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Almost 300 people were killed when the Malaysian Airlines flight was shot down over Ukraine in 2014. The UN aviation council has ruled that Russian-backed separatists were to blame.

The United Nations' aviation council on Monday, ruled that Russia was responsible for downing of the Malaysian Airlines flight over Ukraine, which killed all of the nearly 300 people on board in 2014.

This number included 196 Dutch citizens and 28 Australian citizens, their governments said in separate statements.

The case was launched in 2022 by Australia and the Netherlands.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 33 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It only took them eleven years to decide this?

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. The good news is it'll only take them 50 years to punish Putin for it.
I bet he's shitting his pants harder than an american 'president' about the future punishment as well!!

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

He wont ever be held responsible.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 18 points 16 hours ago
[–] baduhai@sopuli.xyz 152 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"This decision also sends a clear message to the international community: states cannot violate international law with impunity."

And how have they been punished, exactly?

"We call upon Russia to finally face up to its responsibility for this horrific act of violence and make reparations for its egregious conduct, as required under international law,"

You call upon them? So they haven't been punished and won't be, got it.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 35 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

"Yeah, that'll be a No from me, dawg." -Putin

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 20 points 18 hours ago

Yeah, no shit.

That we didn't sanction Russia on the spot is mind-boggling.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The Netherlands and Australia want the ICAO Council to order Russia to enter into talks on possible reparations

"enter into talks on possible reparations". Absolutely brutal, I wouldn't want to be Russia right now...

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The Netherlands also shipped a large amount of anti-tank, air defence missiles as well as a hundred sniper rifles and 30.000 rounds of ammo to Ukraine. And that was just the start.

You need to walk a fine line in international politics as a country.

But here, just you and me talking: as a Dutchman I remember those victims. And I hope every single one of those 30.000 rounds finds a loving home in the brain of a Russian. Fuck the lot of ‘em. You invade a country, you deserve to get a Dutch-sponsored surprise lead injection.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I was not blaming your country at all, you're more than doing your part. It's just frustrating.

Thinking of the families of the victims, I hope that knowing they are not forgotten and people are trying to uncover the truth about what happened will at least provide some closure.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

The Entmoot has decided to discuss opening talks to determine if discussions are necessary before taking action to begin negotiations.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago

How can you order them to enter talks? They can just say no, what are you going to do, arrest the country? Why aren’t they already sanctioned to hell and back? Russia understands no one can make them do anything and they’re right. If there’s no forceful enforcement of rules those rules don’t matter

[–] RoughBeastSlouching@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I'm told by the top minds at .ml that this is all the US's fault somehow.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago

The CIA have their fingerprints all over it, also the UN is the imperialists lap dog.

[–] neukenindekeuken@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They will not believe the report. False flag. Etc.

Thats brave of you to assume they can think independently to claim its a false flag, gotta wait for their latest VK Russian Trustworthy News.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago

There is going to be a report? Wow. I’d hate to be Russia at the minute. I hope they haven’t got any other problems.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago
[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

And as a consequence of these findings, Russia has learned their lesson, we assume. Case closed, good job to us.

[–] doortodeath@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Really? What if the states are united tho?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

How can someone write that non ironically

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

lol how does it even do that? Someone will write you a mean letter you can just throw in the trash… if anything stuff like this proves the literal opposite. Do whatever you want, you’ll never face any consequences beyond a mean letter you throw in the trash

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It took them over a decade to realize this?

[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago

Can you imagine it! It was the Russian government all along! Who could have known? A strongly worded letter is warranted! And maybe even a relocation of the 2028 regional meeting in st petersburg.... WHAT now! Russia is under sanctions? Why? By whom?

The UN: at the forefront of diplomacy.

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I still do not understand the prime motive for this to happen the flight posed zero threat to Russia.

[–] boreengreen@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

What happens when you give advanced weapons to people with no qualifications and tell them to shoot when they see a blip on the screen?

The lesson is to be more responsible with dangerous equipment. Russians don't care. Can always just blame someone else when things go wrong.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It was only just a month into the first post-Euromaidan elected government of Ukraine and Russian media tried to pin the shootdown on Ukraine. Petro Poroshenko, the then-new president, was also talking a lot about forcefully ending the conflict in Donbas and Luhansk. To be clear this is 100% me guessing at things, but I could imagine it being an attempt to discredit Poroshenko's government

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Also to send the message they can do whatever they want to you including kill your civilians and they will never face repercussions for it. If the only “punishment” is a mean letter ten years after the fact what’s actually stopping them from doing it again, when ever they want, wherever they want? Literally nothing. It’s a threat