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Far-right AfD leader vows to campaign for Brexit-style EU exit vote in Germany
(www.theguardian.com)
Cause that’s worked out so well for Britain 🤪
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They don't want it to work well. The worse the situation is for the average citizen the easier they are to be influenced by propaganda as most people tend to look for a strong leader in times of need.
A previous spokesman of the AfD is on record saying that "the worse the situation for Germany the better it is for the AfD"...
Insurrection you say
Not only that, if there is one country that is most essential to the EU and where the EU is most essential to its success, it's got to be Germany. The whole idea of Gexit makes no sense and is entirely carried by fee-fees.
Not only that but as a nation focussed on exports it makes even less sense to cut off trade than as one relying on imports.
These people are racist assholes and their plans are as dumb as they are.
Only if you assume the plan is meant to benefit the country. If you assume that they want to profit from the suffering it makes more sense. Irrational, cult-like mindsets are easier to peddle when people are miserable.
I think they are definitely malicious, but I don't think they are capable of such cunning planning. They yearn for the Germany of the 50s and 60s and that means, among other things, no EU.
I don't think they yearn for any time that actually existed in the past. They yearn for a simpler world, one where people all have the same skin colour, sexual orientation, religion, life goals,... and where good things happen to people like them and bad things happen to people who are different.
That's how they imagine or remember the 50s and 60s.
They yearn for the Germany of '33 to '45...
It hasn't. Learn from our mistakes, don't troll the vote because you think there's no chance it'll happen.
How convenient...for Putin and others who want to divide Europe to make it easier to claim parts of it.
A significant proportion of the AfD’s supporters are explicitly Putinist. In the 90s, Germany gave citizenship to hundreds of thousands of Russian immigrants who had German ancestry (being descended from Volga Germans who migrated to Russia during Catherine the Great’s reign and subsequent waves). Most of these new Germans didn’t even speak German, let alone have any familiarity with post-1989 German democratic society. Nowadays they get their news from Russian state sources and form a far-right anti-liberal voting bloc that’s solidly AfD.
There’s a KGB strategy from 90s iirc that shows a plan of push to divide the UK from Europe, then the US from Europe, then Germany from Europe, then California from the US. I’ve got it downloaded somewhere
That'll never happen < looks around nervously >
You might be thinking of the 1997 book Foundations of Geopolitics by the Russian ultranationalist and neofascist Aleksandr Dugin.
There have been many reports over the years that it's popular amongst those close to Putin - and there are definitely comparisons to be drawn between the book and actually occurring events.
divide and conquer - Putin learned the lessons
Yeah, saw off the branch we're sitting on. What a bright idea.
They don't appeal to bright people.
STATEMENT returned FALSE. They don't appeal to bright AND poor OR somewhat decent people
I feel like every time I look back over my shoulder at Germany the AfD has achieved some new level of Mask Off
It's like the institutional-racism-supporter version of shooting your load before the other one's even finished getting their pants off, like bro you're still in an official quarantine by literally all the other parties, like they're not even considered for grand coalition.
It's because: 1- their racist shit doesn't seem to be hurting their polling, and 2- the assumption is the other parties will work with them once election day comes, if they keep their 30%
They have to take it slowly and they somewhat know that. They have to slowly (depending on the context) expand the border of what's sayable. Sadly the other parties in Germany mostly don't work against that but (maybe just because their just plainly too stupid to see what's happening) play in their cards legitimizing their shifting discourse🫨🫨🫨🤬
Is she trying to backpedal the party to its origins to make them look not unconstitutional, now that shit hit the fan?
Wouldn’t that be back-backpedal? Or front pedal? Or just pedal?
This is bad on so many levels.
"The worse Germany gets, the better it is for the AfD"
– quote by AfD spokesperson Christian Lüth
Maybe this campaign shows all german voters how 'beautiful and fair' a AfD on top of their nation will be. Brexit pro leaders in Great Britain left stage and get paid millions of dollars from (far) right parties, oligarchs and old aristocratic billionaires for their efforts in misleading the democratic societies.
She looks very...German. Blonde hair, stern face. Was she genetically engineered from 'Aryan' blood stocks and infused with V?
She's a walking contradiction. She's a lesbian, lives together with her partner from Sri Lanka, adopted two sons, employed a Syrian refugee as a cleaning lady...but is a leading figure in a far-right party that is against all of those things.
She also lives in Switzerland, you could call her an economic refugee.
She's actually swiss though.
Mountain Germans with a weird accent.
Simply not true, historically. Switzerland has long been a cultural and ethnic crossroads between France, Italy, and Germany, which is why their official languages are French, Italian, German, and Romansh (a regional language).
This lie was, however, commonly repeated by the Nazis to try and justify an invasion on nationalist grounds.
Yeah, well I'm not a Nazi. I just like taking the piss out of people with a funny accent.
Never said you were, but there are quite a few of their propaganda efforts that simply became accepted "truth." Calling blonde haired and blue eyed people Aryan or German, for example, even though we have plenty of evidence those traits exist in non-Germanic peoples.
Tina Turner was Swiss. I rest my case.
Check twice before you use the term Aryan. The 'real' Aryans were not those blue-eyed, blond-haired viking type 'old' germans. The Aryan type originally was used for central asian people plus ... PLUS ... the 1st scripts bout those were from indish vedes. So most not only german pre and post WW2 Aryans are simply barbARYANs. ;-P
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The leader of Germany’s far-right Alternative für Deutschland has said her party will campaign for a Brexit-style vote on EU membership if it comes to power, calling the UK’s departure from the bloc a model for its largest member.
Alice Weidel told the Financial Times in an exclusive interview that the UK decision would be “dead right” for Germany, and that a “Dexit” would boost the country’s self-determination.
Street protests in Germany against the AfD in reaction to the revelations only grew in momentum over the weekend, with more than a million people estimated to have participated in 90 different demonstrations across the country.
Police were forced to order at least two events, in Hamburg and Munich, to come to a premature halt due to the large numbers, with turnouts far greater than predicted either by authorities or organisers.
However, legal and political opposition to pursuing such a ban, including from Scholz, and his deputy, the economics minister, Robert Habeck, is high, due to the dangers of it backfiring and galvanising more support for the party, should it fail.
It marks the further fragmentation of the German political landscape coming in the same month that Sahra Wagenknecht broke from the far-left Die Linke to form her own new leftwing anti-immigrant party.
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leading members had attended a covert meeting at which a “masterplan” for mass deportations of foreigners and German passport holders was discussed, with a view to the party implementing the plans if it came to power.
Weidel called the exposé “scandalous” and said it had misrepresented her party, which only wanted to use the law to repatriate people who had no right to remain in Germany.
What's the fundamental difference between "mass deportation of foreigners" and "repatriation of people who the AfD denies the right to remain in Germany"?
The AfD and their supporters want to get rid of everyone who "doesn't fit" into Germany according to their views. Legal status and German citizenship don't matter to them at all, nor does it matter to them what happens to the deported afterwards. And everyone knows that's what they mean.
But they can't openly say it because that's unconstitutional. So they use vague language about people "who have no right to be in Germany". That way, their supporters know exactly what type of people they mean, but if an inquiry is started, they can pretend they were only talking about illegal immigrants.