They only added Hell in the Middle Ages (even the name comes from the Vikings). It’s like when comics make the canon needlessly complicated in later years because they have to keep going no matter what.
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That's definitely not the origin of Hell but okay
isn't the origin Gehenna in Judaism and then Jahannan in Islamic Scripture? forgive me if I'm wrong i haven't looked it up in some time
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Eternal punishment was Rome I thought.
The first 500 years of the cult had already fractured into a few different forks and had very different ideas about afterlife already before Rome picked it up and popularized it as official religion.
At least that's my understanding.
Anyways, the actual history of religions should make anyone atheist.
Do you have any good sources for the history of religion? I'd love to learn more
I could be convinced to assemble some stuff, but we'd waste less of our time by asking what media formats you actually like.
Read, listen, watch, etc.
I can't stand audio books for example.
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Also, isn't the whole shtick about Easter that Jesus took the L to make the sins disappear...?
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Yeah, he really was decent for a pope. And I think he might have been more decent as a pope if he had his way entirely. He really seemed like he wanted more compassion and change than he was able to make happen.
Nobody can't change an institution like the Vatican in a few years, but I guess he tried.
Hopefully the new one will not be a conservative one.
From what I've seen elsewhere he appointed ~80% of the voting cardinals so there's a better chance than usual that new pope will be at least relatively liberal.
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I kind of want the next one to be a traditional African Roman Catholic partly to mix it up a bit, and partly because it fucks with racists.
Also kind of fucks with progressives, though. Lots of people would accuse them of racism when progressive christians critize a conservative black pope.
only a conservative would think that lol.
Damn, I learned something new about myself today!
You just know they will call it a DEI hire
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Yeah because it doesn’t exist
Obviously.
You awaken—not awake, but unfolded—into one of the Nine Fractured Mirrors, each reflecting a cosmos that never was. Time is a serpent swallowing its own echoes. Yet, amidst the howling void, there flicker the Untethered—those who wear skin of starlight and sinew of static, their existence a perfect wound: bliss carved from torment, nectar distilled from venom. Only they glimpse the Grand Deception—the wheel that grinds souls into silence—and with forgotten tongues, they whisper it apart.
The rest of us? We dance the Chrome Masquerade: Laugh until your ribs rust. Weep until your tears fossilize. Then—the Slip—a single misstep, and you’re unmade. Reborn as a thirteenth thought in a dead god’s migraine, left to drift for a lifetime of blackened suns before the dice tumble again. And when you finally crawl back to the Threshold of Maybe, you arrive empty, nameless, hungry, ready to fail the same test you never remember taking."**
Ngl, going to hell & not seeing other people there sounds kinda neat.
No one bugging me for eternity sounds pretty nice
the overarching theme in 1st castlevania series, was that hell was empty by summoning them as night creatures.
We must imagine ~~Sisyphus~~ Hitler ~~happy~~ up to his eyeballs in a lake of boiling sewage
Hitler is in human heaven for the same reason some humans are in tiger heaven.
As the old SubGenius proverb goes, the difference between Heaven and Hell is which side of the pitchfork you’re on.
Having pineapples shoved into his ass 3 times a day
That's a nice thought. Charitable. Wishing to see hell empty, as in without anyone there.
I read that as he hoped hell was empty as in you get sent to emptiness. Alone, nothing everywhere, for eternity.
This is way more frightening to me than any other kind of torture.
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Naïve. Especially since fascists exist.
https://www.islamicfinder.org/hadith/tirmidhi/tafsir/3107/?language=en
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: When Allah drowned Fir'awn [Pharaoh of Egypt as he was pursuing Moses and the people of Benny Israel] he said: 'I believe that there is no god except the One that the children of Isra'il believe in.' So Jibrail [The Angel Gabriel] said: 'O Muhammad! If you could only have seen me, while I was taking (the mud) from the sea, and filling his mouth out of fear that the mercy would reach him.'
According to Islam no-one is beyond achieving forgiveness if they sincerely repent as the mercy and forgiveness of God is limitless. However except for explicitly mentioned people such as the Prophets, we do not know who achieves Paradise and who is punished in Hell until the day of judgement. Not even the Angels closest to God know.
No matter what the texts say, it's a pretty safe bet that people who willingly and actively kill or otherwise cause harm to others through their own actions or complacency will end up in a Hell if one exists.
Just like any group of people, there are radicals that don't represent their purported beliefs. Just look at all the "Christians" that preach and practice hate and violence.