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[–] sai_mi@infosec.pub 5 points 29 minutes ago

My mother is a divorcée. In 90s Ireland, she was demonized by the Catholic Church, and was publicly refused communion by the local priest after she left my (at the time alcoholic and abusive) father. She had a crisis of faith after all that and accepted the "fact" that she was doomed to hell while her five children would go to heaven. She quietly accepted this and from then on refused communion at all events, making up excuses with us none the wiser.

In the mid 2000s, I came out as gay and following that, spurred by the church's cruel treatment of my mother, left the church via apostasy. I had to tell my mother in detail as I was no longer allowed to be buried in a Catholic graveyard. She laminated the letter confirming my leaving of the church from the bishop.

In the mid 2010s she and I campaigned for Marriage Equality together. She told me about her crisis of faith. She also told me how I helped her through the other side of it just by existing. Before she thought all her children would be separated from her after death. But heathen that I was had equally doomed myself to join her. Logically that would make hell lesser. Logically that means the more sinners in hell, the less hellish it is. Therefore hell in its most hellish is empty, and the whole threat is bullshit whether you believe in an afterlife or not.

The fucking POPE saying something like this is huge, and very important for people that carry a burden of Catholic guilt. Good on him, and RIP.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I sometimes joke that I hope my late best friend has gone to evangelical Christian hell, because he was a bisexual punk who loved tabletop roleplaying games (like Dungeons & Dragons).


I was raised vaguely Christian, and when I was realising I didn't believe in God, I felt a lot of conflict, because I was still scared of going to hell. I was getting stuck on the idea that if all good morality came from God, does that mean that I would be evil as an atheist?

In the end, I concluded that if all morality came from God, that the many atheists who lead good and virtuous lives must still have the favour of God. On the other hand, morality existed independently of God, but that unbelievers would go to hell no matter how good they were in life, then I'd rather be defiantly good and go to hell than be coerced into belief.

This was before I understood that hell has historically often been understood as just a place without God (which, to a Christian view, is a hellish existence).

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Well, he is right, hell is empty, but then again, so is heaven

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

The old testament did not even mention hell and thus Jews don't believe it. Hell is a Christian invention to control the masses through threat of eternal damnation for disobeying the authority.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

i'm not believing that since i remember reading that the concept of heaven/hell is essentially the idea of dualism that is older than judaism itself, even, at least dating back to zoroastrianism, which existed in the middle east already at the time that judaism was formed.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 49 minutes ago

Judaism is older than Zoroastrianism with the added caveat that what constitutes Judaism changes with time as modern Rabbinical Judaism and Priestly Judaic practices aren’t identical (The destruction of the second Temple in Jerusalem by Rome leads to the Rabbinical movement)

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The concept of an afterlife consisting of Heaven and Hell absolutely existed in Judaism prior to Christ.

That was the primary difference between the Pharisees and Sadducees. Pharisees believed in more of the supernatural and the afterlife, whereas Sadducees were a political class of priests with no interest or belief in the supernatural.

i believe that hell essentially codifies not the principle of torment, but actually stagnation, which, to many people, is a form of torment.

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 24 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

I can't speak for god or anything

- the guy speaking for god

[–] Orangutanion@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not religious so correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Pope is a prophet? Like yeah he's the official leader of the Catholic Church but I don't think they believe that he convenes with god... I could be wrong though.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

LITERALLY God’s designated representative

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Actually, per Catholic dogma, Hell is full of people like me

[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 31 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Neither heaven nor hell exist, so you can all stop worrying about them.

Enjoy your life because it's the only one you get.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

You should only worry about them if you're a sociopath who requires the threat of eternal torture to keep you from hurting others.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Still true if they exist tho. Paradise is being with God, so bye bye free will. Hell is beimg simply cast out, so yeah.

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

What a pleasant thought for the child diddling priests he did nothing about.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

you only need to take one look at the Pope’s evil gold throne to know the entire institution of Catholicism is bullshit….
i mean, there’s a lot of other ways to figure that out, but the throne is glaringly obvious

[–] melisdrawing@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I mean, in the photo he's just sitting in what appears to be a wooden chair... which I'm sure still cost more than my entire life has.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 34 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

They only added Hell in the Middle Ages (even the name comes from the Vikings). It’s like when comics make the canon needlessly complicated in later years because they have to keep going no matter what.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Eternal punishment was Rome I thought.

The first 500 years of the cult had already fractured into a few different forks and had very different ideas about afterlife already before Rome picked it up and popularized it as official religion.

At least that's my understanding.

Anyways, the actual history of religions should make anyone atheist.

[–] blaze@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have any good sources for the history of religion? I'd love to learn more

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

I could be convinced to assemble some stuff, but we'd waste less of our time by asking what media formats you actually like.

Read, listen, watch, etc.

I can't stand audio books for example.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

That's definitely not the origin of Hell but okay

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I've been learning a lot about biblical history and early Christianity lately. To be clear: as a layperson. Ie I've been listening to podcasts by biblical scholars, and reading Wikipedia articles. I'm not an expert but I'm an interested lay person. I've been doing this as a person that doesn't believe in the supernatural, because I'm interested in history and sociology, I haven't been learning about hell specifically but more the context influence of Early Christianity.

Early Judaism understood the afterlife to be a sort of sleep/slumber/torpor.

Greek concepts of hades had an influence on early Christianity.

The Book of Revelation was kinda like a revenge fantasy for early Christians experiencing persecution by the Greco-Roman empire.

The lake of fire was not for human souls.

There's also something about souls being fed into an eternal furnace, but the furnace is consuming the souls so the souls are destroyed through incineration, not eternally tormented.

I know a lot of current hell imagery is drawn from Dante's Inferno which is medieval I think, but I haven't really gotten that far in my learning about Christianity.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The Book of Revelation was kinda like a revenge fantasy for early Christians experiencing persecution by the Greco-Roman empire.

The lake of fire was not for human souls.

While Revelation isn't exactly the best source as you say, it still has this part regarding a lake of fire:

But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

Revelation 21:8 (NIV)

[–] Franklin@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

isn't the origin Gehenna in Judaism and then Jahannan in Islamic Scripture? forgive me if I'm wrong i haven't looked it up in some time

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Also, isn't the whole shtick about Easter that Jesus took the L to make the sins disappear...?

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Always weird to me they didn't bother renaming the holiday they co-opted. They did it with Christmas.

It's named after the goddess Ēostre.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 151 points 16 hours ago (17 children)

Yeah, he really was decent for a pope. And I think he might have been more decent as a pope if he had his way entirely. He really seemed like he wanted more compassion and change than he was able to make happen.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 78 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody can't change an institution like the Vatican in a few years, but I guess he tried.

Hopefully the new one will not be a conservative one.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

From what I've seen elsewhere he appointed ~80% of the voting cardinals so there's a better chance than usual that new pope will be at least relatively liberal.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Damn, that's a massive conflict of interest. If the Pope can appoint the voting Cardinals, what keeps him from staying on the chair till he...oh.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I kind of want the next one to be a traditional African Roman Catholic partly to mix it up a bit, and partly because it fucks with racists.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Also kind of fucks with progressives, though. Lots of people would accuse them of racism when progressive christians critize a conservative black pope.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why would progressives accuse them of racism though

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

e.g. because they actually agree with conservative catholic policies. It's not necessarily clear to outsiders whether those accusations have any merit.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

only a conservative would think that lol.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago

Damn, I learned something new about myself today!

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

You just know they will call it a DEI hire

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Ngl, going to hell & not seeing other people there sounds kinda neat.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

No one bugging me for eternity sounds pretty nice

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

the overarching theme in 1st castlevania series, was that hell was empty by summoning them as night creatures.

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