The word really holds no negative connotation within German speaking spaces, east or west.
It only gets Nazi adjacent when it is used within other languages. Otherwise it's just the German word for habitat.
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How could they leave out that the full title of the group is "Burgeriniative Lebensraum Vorpommern". I can't believe there's a country where a citizen's special interest group is called a "burger initiative" and it's not America.
The long and complex history of the completly expexted and average American "Hamburger -> Hamburger LOL " Comment
starts with the Roman fortifications along the Border called Burgus - from which the Word "Burg" (Castle) developed .. Castles beeing Places of Protection , Administration and Residents of the Lords - So the People living their had special Protection and Special functions for the State , they where the "protected" ones , inside the Fortifications. --> The Bürger. One of these fortifications was Called the Hammaburg , from there a Prosperous Bourgoise and Free Imperial city developed - Hamburg.
From there in the 1880 many of the "Bürgers" would decide to take one of these "lebensraums" that the Anglos always throw on the white supremecy market.
Little did they know that they would travel to a Land so primitv , it had not figured out "Meat on Bread" before So once arrived their Innovative Technology of puttig Meat on Bread would travel extremly fast through the land of their Arrival . the Anglos where so impressed by that , they made it their National Identity and named it after the Innovators that arrived from distant shores to share the Technique..
The conspiracies are true about aliens visiting earth. But they didn’t build the pyramids; they gave us hamburger technology
Ah yes, the typical German rant on history. Condescending and wrong.
Hopefully that dont have "Burger" initatives as well .....
Hamburgers are a valid culture group in germany.
valid
Germany
Sorry I don't understand
Also, which other language has a word for citizen that sounds so deliciously fatty?
"lebensraum" isnt that nazi conontated (Habitat) , to get an idea what you currently do ITT
imagine a german threat where everbody is going " Ha ha ha , die Nennen sich "Community of US DESTINY" ....
oof, you'd think the the German group would have used a name without the historical baggage.
some kind of name to acknowledge the germans have a Master Plan for the East and the Poles are untermen-- ahem, I mean undermining it.
The border area with Poland is the most fashy part of Germany.
only word they could think of was a Nazi one?
It can also mean something like biosphere or living room. But yeah the naming was a bit unfortunate, especially for non-natives.
The definitions provided by Wiktionary are "living space", "habitat (in biology)", "lebensraum (in history)"
If you go to the German Wikipedia article "Habitat" you will find the word Lebensraum used several times in the second sense, and given that the German group is talking about an "environmental catastrophe", I'm reckoning that's probably the sense intended.
I know, it's my native language.
I figured, I'm mostly just saying it for the sake of other people who might be reading.
Oh sorry then!
It's no big deal, I wasn't clear about my intent.
Thank you to you and u/lemister very polite and informative exchange.
damn I thought I had saved a link to that gif someone posted of "What year is it?" from The Fisher King but I can't find it
that would have been a good thing to post
The timeline gods are just fucking with us now.