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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40558542

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

Of course we do but the question is if Europeans want us in. I'd think so, but I'd like to see

[โ€“] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Unsurprising

[โ€“] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I would straight up move to Canada if it had New York

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

But a new york with less cars and strodes

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

New York City is built more like a European city than every other American city, as of last I checked. I presume Buffalo is typical, though.

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

Yes, but it still has lots of cars

[โ€“] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

NYC alone has a population about half that of our whole country. Quebec would be apoplectic.

If we're doing an uno-reverse on the whole annexation thing, we probably shouldn't go south of Boston.

[โ€“] Blackout@fedia.io 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Canada would definitely be safer being closer to Europe but how are you going to move all your stuff?

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 17 hours ago

AFAIK the oil pipelines are the main barrier there. Port capacity might be a problem too, but it doesn't seem to be easy-to-find information. The road and rail system is nicely connected within Canada.

[โ€“] troed@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The EU and Canada share a land border. This is just natural.

(The EU and Brazil too, but one step at a time)

[โ€“] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

MAY THE SUN NEVER SET ON THE EUROPEAN ~~EMP~~ UNION

[โ€“] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 19 hours ago

It already doesnt set. Thanks to frances overseas territories

[โ€“] Denixen@feddit.nu 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Are we talking about Quebec? Because I'm pretty sure it is part of Canada, as strange as it might seem...

(FYI I love you Quebecians, I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings!)

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They prefer Quebecois (pronounced -wa) or Quebecers.

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Brazil... Yeah, that's one to waitlist along with Bosnia, probably. TBF they both could be strong members eventually.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

We also share a maritime border with France. May the universe bless Saint Pierre and Miquelon.

[โ€“] Phytobus@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sure about full membership at this point, but having our Canadian friends join in the EFTA / EEA would be great!

[โ€“] Denixen@feddit.nu 2 points 20 hours ago

We have have CETA, which has the intent to harmonize our economies and trade already so we are pretty tight already.

[โ€“] Daelsky@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago

As a Canadian, I'd love to have a closer partnership.

[โ€“] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is this surprising, exactly? Canadian asking any surprised Europeans.

[โ€“] daw@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Being part of the eu means subjecting to new laws as EU law beats national. This would mean stopping some bullshit that happens in Canada as well as accepting that you don't get to have full national sovereignty anymore. Whilst I think being part of th eu is absolutely worth it i would've guessed that it more contentious

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

that's not really true. member countries are encouraged to implement EU laws but they are enforced at the national level still so it's up to the local government. basically every EU country has exceptions.

[โ€“] daw@feddit.org 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Not really . There is a legal framework to go after nations which do not sufficiently translate eu law into national law. So the important lines are not up to the national governments and they can ultimately not do how they please. I do agree though that in practice in can be slow moving and that there is fishy stuff going on around what is prosecuted and what is not. I think Hungary is a good case to explain this as they continuously try to play the union: sometimes it kinda works but a lot of the times they get "punishment" in the form of the eu withholding funds etc.. it's not a perfect system but I think saying that they are only encouraged and that it's up to the national governments is an overstatement. If the eu says "here is GDPR" it is happening, if the eu says "here is limits to nitrogen pollution" it is happening.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 18 hours ago

i am thinking more about countries with state alcohol monopolies, or extreme data retention policies.

[โ€“] Phytobus@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Well every member state still has full sovereignty. If you really don't agree you can freely leave at any time as the UK proved. EU membership is completely voluntary.

[โ€“] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

Try dealing with Agent Orange and his hourly tantrums. I'll take regularly paced orderly legislation changes that we have an overall say in.

[โ€“] chatty_lurker@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

those numbers are outdated, Iโ€™m sure I saw lower in an article this weekend, like 24% in favor of the US

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I can't even read the link in OP, but support for joining the US is even lower. (The headline is about the EU, the European Union)

Support for US statehood is at about 10%, and there's heavy overlap with antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists. The rest of us are appalled and talking about beating people with our elbows to stay independent.

[โ€“] hitwright@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm quite surprised about the high percentage, considering that it's not a given that Canadians would be equal in terms of citizenship (voting for example) if annexed by USA

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Trump said state, so we would (and would vote heavily Democratic, basically like another California). Puerto Rico would feel miffed as hell I'm sure.

No such promise has been accepted to Greenland. I guess you have to be white to get a vote again.

[โ€“] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can California get in on that too?

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

California has the upcoming ballot initiative to become independent in November 2028. Mark your calender.

I would first like to see Canada treat First Nations with some dignity and respect first. Just because they're marginally better than USA doesn't mean they're not awful.