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[โ€“] daw@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Being part of the eu means subjecting to new laws as EU law beats national. This would mean stopping some bullshit that happens in Canada as well as accepting that you don't get to have full national sovereignty anymore. Whilst I think being part of th eu is absolutely worth it i would've guessed that it more contentious

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

that's not really true. member countries are encouraged to implement EU laws but they are enforced at the national level still so it's up to the local government. basically every EU country has exceptions.

[โ€“] daw@feddit.org 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Not really . There is a legal framework to go after nations which do not sufficiently translate eu law into national law. So the important lines are not up to the national governments and they can ultimately not do how they please. I do agree though that in practice in can be slow moving and that there is fishy stuff going on around what is prosecuted and what is not. I think Hungary is a good case to explain this as they continuously try to play the union: sometimes it kinda works but a lot of the times they get "punishment" in the form of the eu withholding funds etc.. it's not a perfect system but I think saying that they are only encouraged and that it's up to the national governments is an overstatement. If the eu says "here is GDPR" it is happening, if the eu says "here is limits to nitrogen pollution" it is happening.

[โ€“] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 17 hours ago

i am thinking more about countries with state alcohol monopolies, or extreme data retention policies.

[โ€“] Phytobus@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

Well every member state still has full sovereignty. If you really don't agree you can freely leave at any time as the UK proved. EU membership is completely voluntary.

[โ€“] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago

Try dealing with Agent Orange and his hourly tantrums. I'll take regularly paced orderly legislation changes that we have an overall say in.