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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 24 minutes ago

Bigger screens mean bigger and more obtrusive ads.

I'm convinced this is 90% of the reason right here.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

I held on to my iPhone 4S as long as I could. Now I have a 12 "mini". I know I'm in the minority, though, because I don't spend all day staring at my phone. I do like having all the features, but I use them only occasionally--say, once a week or less. I prefer my internet use on my gaming computer with a big monitor, and a full-size keyboard.

I expect I'll end up with a huge phone for my next one, that I don't need, just to keep access to the functionality. Like everything else in life, there's always compromises to be made.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 50 minutes ago

I bought a pixel fold because the screen on the front is small and it opens in a wide format when I need to look at tables

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 2 points 51 minutes ago

I believe I saw where you hear that people want small phones, they make them, and then they sell poorly. So, to the company at least, it doesn’t look like people want the smaller devices.

Now, I saw some comments in here about the smaller devices usually being less robust than their normal/pro counterparts, and that could also be a major reason small phones don’t sell.

[–] BlueBaggy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago

"Why can't we go back to small phones"

Company releases small phone

"No one" buys it

Company stops making small phones

People complaining why there are no small phones

[–] ray1992xd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There is a feature called single hand mode on most keyboards. Makes it something like this. I do however agree that small phones are nice.Screenshot of smartphone keyboard in single hand mode.

[–] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I do, I bought smallest phone available from known company. But most of those companies just decided you need huge phone that can't fit everywhere, removed sdcard slot, removed headphone jack. Last time I remember nobody asked them to remove those features. I think it is the same enshittification like with everything, they no longer make cheap houses, smaller cheaper cars, actual budget gpus etc, etc. Feels like every company targets top 20% and the rest - gtfo and be damned.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Stock market says brrr

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Because most people use their phone as their main, if not only, device, so a bigger screen is more desirable to consume content.

[–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

By that logic everyone should buy a foldable

[–] the@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

I would, if long term durability is not a concern and the price is not too damn expensive.

Basically if money is no issue.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Answering single handed on me iPhone 12 mini on latest iOS 😇

It is a great small phone!

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Answering the phone single-handed sounds like it should be possible on even the largest of phones. No problem for me using a Pixel 9 Pro, although it's not a very big phone of course.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That was discontinued after two iterations. Was going to switch to ios just for their mini range after years of Android, then saw that they got rid of small phones as well. Like, what would I gain by switching ecosystems if I know that the next phone is still going to be huge?

BTW, I settled for an S24, which is considered "small" now but still way too big, but at least Samsung has a decent one handed mode that doesn't hide half of your screen like ios or stock android but instead decreases the whole screen to bearable sizes:

Still feels like the damn clown mask meme, where, after years of increasing phone sizes, they now add a stupid software feature to virtually decrease screen size to remain usable.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

I second this.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

There were benefits to the comically-large form factor, though. Touch keyboards worked significantly better with larger screens,

No, the tiny soft-keyboard on my old Galaxy Xcover is significantly easier to type than any modern phone. Less movement of the finger, easier targeting of the buttons. I'm always surprised anew, each time i dust it off and play with it.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 64 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (4 children)

I don't want a small phone or a slide out keyboards.

I want :
Replaceable battery.
Non glass back.
3.5 jack.

[–] TheWilliamist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Galaxy Xcover series.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

3.5 jack is easy, most budget phones have them (along with a MicroSD card slot)

The replaceable battery? That's gonna be hard to find. There the obvious Fairphone, but its very costly for its specs and is only made for EU, and even if someone from the US imports it, the only US carrier allowing it is Tmobile.

Samsung Galaxy XCover series have IP67 Water resistance, headphone jack, and MicroSD card slot, and the replaceable battery, but its specs are not that good for its cost (as reported by various Reddit users).

I wouldn't trust the water resistance tho. One drop into a puddle and the back comes off exposing the internals.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

The xcovers backs usually stay on when you drop them and the back only really holds the battery in. The internals are protected by another layer of plastic.

As you say the specs do suck though.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (8 children)

Why can't we go back to small phones?

The iPhone SE is dead,

Is there any chance that you chose to lock yourself into a very small walled garden with a vendor who might make decisions about product that you might not agree with?

Apple is the only one making iOS phones, and Apple doesn't seem interested in small devices anymore, so that door is shut.

Right. You stick yourself in that garden, you are gambling that the vendor is going to come out with the product that you want.

There are still a few niche companies working on smaller devices, like Unihertz, but those phones almost always have low-end hardware and limited software support.

Well, size is kind of a constraint on what hardware you can put in the thing.

If what you mean by "limited software support" is "apps are going to be optimized for the bulk of users and will probably feel small if the great bulk of users are using larger screens", well...I mean, yeah.

The iPhone 3 SE you have:

4.7-inch (diagonal) widescreen LCD Multi‑Touch display with IPS technology

1334-by-750-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

Memory 4 GB LPDDR4X RAM

https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2022&nRamMin=8000&fDisplayInchesMax=5.5

Let's grab one from that list:

https://www.gsmarena.com/ulefone_armor_mini_20t_pro-13298.php

Size 4.7 inches, 53.3 cm2 (~63.1% screen-to-body ratio)

Same screen size as your phone.

Resolution 720 x 1600 pixels, 20:9 ratio (~373 ppi density)

30 pixels narrower, but 266 pixels taller than your phone.

8GB RAM

Twice the memory of your phone.

Can buy online in the US:

https://www.amazon.com/Ulefone-Armor-Mini-20T-Pro/dp/B0DJ74TQXT

And it was released October 2024, so it's pretty new.

Now, you may not be able to get an iOS phone that fits your hardware wants, but them's the breaks when you go with a platform that has only a single vendor making hardware for it.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

That phone isn't actually small. It has a small screen, but it's 25mm thick and weighs 300g.

[–] iarigby@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

“walled garden” - how many 5.4” android phones can you name from the current decade?

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree, it's like the author is saying "why this public-market company I trusted blindly is not doing what I (minority) want?"

[–] umean2me@discuss.online 4 points 8 hours ago

I think it’s a valid criticism that should be welcomed. You could make this argument for any company when they make a bad decision.

“Oh well you trusted this company blindly so why are you upset and criticizing this design choice you don’t agree with.”

I also am not convinced a criticism is less meaningful if it’s the minority opinion. Many such cases in the world where the minority opinion is proven to be better for the majority.

[–] Sustolic@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

RAM is a horrible indication of phone performance imo.

The A15 chip in the iPhone 3 SE absolutely destroys the Dimensity 6300 chip in the 8GB phone you linked

A lot of people had liked iPhone because for the longest time android phones were not able to compete in the cpu/gpu space especially around the time of the iPhone 11.

Although now at the high end android phones are much closer together in performance so it’s more about what features you care about more between the phones.

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago (8 children)

How many times is this going to be regurgitated? The question has been well and truly answered.

We don’t buy them.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

When are we finally going to get curved phones on some kind of bracer? They wear them in every futuristic movie, we finally have curved screens, and no one’s made one for wearing on your forearm yet.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

Sounds like a big smart watch.

And I'm not sure how useful the Pip-Boy format would be. Now you've got a device that still requires both arms to use, but you can only use one hand...

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

More than one company has gotten to the prototype stage. Don't remember any huge companies, but there's video out there. You don't realize how much the form factor sucks until it's real.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Maybe they could make a pop out version that would flatten when off the dock. Seems like it would be less wear and tear going from slightly curved to flat than the screens that fold completely.

[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 19 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Because they're fucking stupid.

I can pick up a phone in either hand and type on it using only that hand, and I can play games using both hands at once. If I'm using a bracer, it means I can't do anything else with either hand or use my off hand to interact with it.

The only problem a bracer solves is not having pockets, but even then you still need to wear a bracer.

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