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[–] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit's equivalent.

Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy's active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit's. Basically anything about Lemmy that's somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.

It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven't been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.

And, while anecdotal, I think that there's a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I'm not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:

  • "waaah, TL;DR!!" discouraging in-depth explainations
  • feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
  • context illiteracy
  • unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
  • "trust me"

Don't get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it's way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.

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[–] opensourcedeeznuts@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.

That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There's very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy.world is defederated from hexvear if you're looking to be totally free of them. Obviously you would have to join lemmyworld and some people don't want to do that for various reasons, which is totally fine, but you'll get a ton of content without the spam.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's VERY noticeable when I'm on an alt account (either to view c/piracy or because the DDOS attacks have .world down) and a hexbear user is in the comments. Defederation was 100% the right decision and I'm eager to block the instance on all my alts when it becomes possible to.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I don't know if it's the users themselves or just the fact it's a smaller community as a whole, but I see way, way more drama posts about random things going on in niche parts of Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit. And unlike those on Reddit, most of these posts on Lemmy amount to nothing but the OP overreacting or reaching for the sake of being a victim. I can only think of one bit of drama that was legit, and that was the Ten Forward/Risa thing.

And it's not more or less annoying than Reddit, it's basically the same thing as the nazis but with a different flavor: the tankies. It's just... Weird. I'd never encountered that shit before.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm left on the political spectrum but by and large y'all fuckers are over the deep end.

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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I'm apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.

This goes not only for the tankies, unfortunately...

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[–] mim@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

Tankies.

You can't have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.

"Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA's bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry's profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up."

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[–] PvtGetSum@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some apps for Lemmy support blocking whole instances. Both Connect and Sync does.

Blocking hexbear has made my Lemmy experience much more pleasant

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[–] SaltyLemon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chill the fuck out with the linux supremacy. I hate windows too but linux is not as friendly and efficient as you think.

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[–] Skunk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.

There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.

When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.

[–] CoolSouthpaw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lots more pro CCP shills on here. Smh.

[–] Whimsical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just lack of numbers. Reddit's at it's best when I can use it to discuss some incredibly niche topic. That early 2000s RTS that nobody remembers? Got a few dozen redditors still posting memes. New indie game drops? There's enough redditors on it that we can talk about it.

But lemmy seems really bad for trying to enjoy any community that isn't a big political or meme centerpiece. Any particular game or IP that isn't a lowest common denominator? It'll get maybe 3 posts a month.

No more interesting discussions of gameplay mechanics or inspirations or character analyses, no burning out an entire workday browsing the top all-time and giggling like an idiot, it's just dead here.

The same massive numbers that made reddit insufferable for some are what make niche communities inhabitable at all.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Numbers are a double edged sword. Yes, Reddit has lots of active niche communities that are active because of its massive user base, but once you get to anything not niche, there are so many users that any sort of constructive discussion is nearly impossible are you're drowned out from the masses. Using Reddit only for the niche stuff (with ads blocked, of course) and Lemmy for anything else seems like a reasonable solution.

[–] tahoe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’m annoyed by all those Facebook-type boomer comics you see on basically all meme subs. Reddit culture managed to get rid of them, but for some reason people here seem to love them

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The pro china/Russia stuff is super weird. Also the hex bear goons brigading everything.

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[–] Xenxs@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The wannabe communists and those trolls from Hexbear.

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