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[–] Arn_Thor@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.

[–] zkfcfbzr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This but about how almost everything about Lemmy is spun as either good, or better than reddit's equivalent.

Like the other day I saw a post about how Lemmy's active users were on the decline, trying to claim that was somehow good for Lemmy. Or back when Lemmy had its /r/place copy, there were plenty of people saying it was better than reddit's. Basically anything about Lemmy that's somewhat lacking has people desperately trying to defend it as actually superior.

It borders on delusional at times. Yes Lemmy is good, but reddit is still better in dozens of ways, almost all of them related to user count. And this is coming from one of the people who deleted their reddit account and replaced it with Lemmy cold turkey - I haven't been back there (except for porn) in almost 8 weeks.

[–] glassware@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I still use both Lemmy and Reddit and I honestly think Lemmy is in a sweet spot where there are enough comments for a discussion but not enough to go off topic.

Reddit discussions are never about the OP, they're always riffing on an off-topic joke that someone made in a reply to the already off-topic top comment.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I half-agree with this. I think that this depends a lot on the topic and, while the smaller amount of comments does hurt discussion depth, the individual comments themselves partially offset this by being more thoughtful.

And, while anecdotal, I think that there's a considerably lower ratio of comments with negative discussion value here in Lemmy than in Reddit. I'm not even talking about the out-of-place jokes (although they add noise), but shit like this:

  • "waaah, TL;DR!!" discouraging in-depth explainations
  • feigned lack of understanding as ad nauseam tactic
  • context illiteracy
  • unchecked assumptions towards other users, for the sake of ad hominem
  • "trust me"

Don't get me wrong; you do find this crap here, but IMO it's way less than in Reddit. And they hurt discussion because they either waste the time of the more thoughtful and knowledgeable users, or outright disengage them.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lemmy users also tend to be stuck in one mind set and that is they know what they are talking about all the time no matter what even if their opinion is actually kind of shit.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

In fairness, this is practically everywhere on the internet.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"lemmy users", most people here have been here for barely 2 months. The site doesn't have a defined culture yet, if it ever will given its fragmentation.

I get that you can't stand having to see opinions you disagree with, but you're really trying to prop up some punching bag here that doesn't exist.