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[–] Ponygirl42@lemmy.wtf 2 points 11 hours ago
[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean, he was incredibly rich. That probably helped.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 160 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I... well, yes.

I mean, normally these "adult hot take" things on children stories are forced to present a cynical joke, but... yeah no, that's the entire point of the story. Like, that's the plot. It's what the movie is literally about.

Belle discovering that she had a monster-fucker kink, mid-Stockholm Syndrome/Lima Syndrome tango, only to have that taken away from her at the last minute?

You saw her face at the end of the movie, it wasn't just surprise, it was disappointment! 😂

Still, she and Beast working through their problems and having a healthy relationship after... well, the involuntary confinement thing was over.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Lol, fair point

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago (14 children)

If you really want to get down to brass tacks about it, the movie was saying love can transcend appearance, not necessarily sex. Loving relationships don't have to include gargling beast balls, so I'd say the adult hot take is still valid.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago

Loving relationships don't have to include gargling beast balls

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know, that's very clearly romantic love they're talking about throughout the whole thing. The entire point of the curse is making the Beast ugly so he'd have to be nice to get some, and she certainly didn't get into that dress to friendzone him.

You made me go check, the curse demands that he "learn to love another, and earn HER love in return". I don't think beloved drinking buddies would have cut it. This is not subtext, it's the text.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean yes but asexuals exist and we can feel romantic love too

Disney in general shows very clearly only romantic love

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

The Internet shows the rest

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[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago

Well yeah. Did you see how he eats oatmeal? Now imagine that messy enthusiasm where it matters. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lindsay Ellise, before the internet's most worthless people drove her off youtube, made a very good video talking about the trope of women and their monster partners in media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YesMWAxqJ60

[–] CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago

She's on nebula and I'm pretty sure you can watch a video for free to get a taste.

[–] Eyelessoozeguy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I didn't know she quit, what the hell happened?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The less succinct version is that she was considered one of the OG progressive youtubers who gained a huge following and as a result has garnered a LOT of harassment over the years she was running. (Keep in mind she was at peak of her youtube career around the time of "Gamergate") When she directed mild criticism towards the Disney movie "Raya and the Last Dragon" and how it was derivative of Avatar, I can't remember the details but something about the way she made the comparison set her up to be attacked by online chuds pretending to be concerned progressives attacking her for being "anti-asian."

Lindsay Ellis was a champion of equality and diversity and the details were infuriatingly minor and stupid (which is why I can't even remember it) but it was just the final straw and her mental health couldn't handle any more threats, attacks and condemnations and she left Youtube other than doing some guest bits with other old-time Breadtubers and she still does work on Nebula.

I fully get how even if you make a widely praised and well-received work, you will tend to fixate on the negative reviews the most, but this was the end of a long-term campaign to bully her off the internet and we can't expect every content creator to have inhuman thick skin. That said, I wish she would have just got off Twitter and kept making content, we could use her more than ever.

[–] Carl@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

I think people got mad at something she said about Avatar on twitter (the cartoon not the movie), and her anti-fandom reached a critical mass spreading around every single thing she'd ever said that could be interpreted uncharitably, and with her book out and her presence on Nebula secured she decided that being on YouTube was more trouble than its worth.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I wondered if she was disappointed when he turned human.

https://i.ibb.co/5h46prVM/5e3hiabv5v4e1.jpg

[–] sidelove@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She missed her chance to get torn up by beast cock 😞

[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago

I think it would have been more like a red rocket if you know what I mean. 🚀

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In fairness Human Beast was the least handsome Disney prince they've ever drawn.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This scene was actually drawn hastily as the shot itself was done during the crunch period of production, at the very end of the deadline. Be Our Guest was so immensely, terribly complex that it took a small army of extremely talented artists to pull off!

The pencil roughs of Beast's human face were much more aesthetically pleasing, but it just didn't translate to the finished cel.

[–] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That's really fascinating and I didn't know that! thanks

[–] BenReilly97@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

When we watched this as kids, my sister and I liked to joke about how the witch did him a favor.

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Even as a straight, young boy I was disappointed for her. I vividly remember announcing "but he's MORE ugly now!" Somehow, none of the conservative, Christian adults in the room liked me saying that.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] GratefullyGodless@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, he does give off unemployed actor/barrista who's only going to need to sleep on your couch for a couple more nights because he's got stuff lined up vibes.

Owner of couch; "hey do you want to model for an animated movie character?"

[–] Feyter@programming.dev 9 points 3 days ago

Turned out, it wasn't the happy end she was hoping for...

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

We always knew Disney animators were a bunch of furries.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Lindsay Ellise did an entire video about girls and monsters. Worth watching.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] kenoh@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Any step after step one is optional.

[–] kenoh@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago
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[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Bro gives her her own library. So yes, that may have played a role.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

12"!...11", 10, 9, 8, 8.5....stop! Stop!.... 6...5.5"

Darn! WTF! How do we turn you back?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Omg! That's 9 years old? How did Disney allow such greatness? My only complaint is that its fairly softcore lol.

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

😏 those who know.

[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 16 points 3 days ago

We don't know what happened after they danced, but we do know she didn't say I love you during.

[–] maximilian@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But she knew that he was rich. So if you are ugly as heck you only need to be rich to get the beautiful girl. What a nice story to inspire the young.

[–] brian@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the kidnapping and holding against their will! Gotta make sure they have time to realize just how rich you are.

[–] maximilian@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

Of course. That’s also really important if you are ugly and want to find love. Silly me

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

OG furry lover. No kink shaming

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago
[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 5 points 3 days ago
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