Is there any legitimate argument that cartels aren't terrorists? They seem to have successfully terrorized the local population in to compliance. They run militias and have military equipment.
this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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It’s not that cartels aren’t bad, but labeling them as terrorists groups gives the US different rights by international law. For example asylum seekers that use coyote to cross the border are labeled as criminals. Also “allows” the US to invade Mexico and deal with the terrorists
That's orthogonal to the point though. Looking the other way in regards to cartel's human smuggling isn't helping asylum seekers, it's enabling the criminal activity of the cartel. Similarly them being terrorists or not has little to do with US intervention.
Experts warn it may complicate asylum claims, as migrants paying cartels for passage could face disqualification.
That sounds like a win-win for the Führer.
I swear I've seen this movie before. It was based on some book by a guy named Tom... /s
From the wording of the executive order its clear that the intent is drug cartels however since the language is so broad wouldn't any organization that's international and involved in price fixing or other cartel behavior have a grounds to be labeled as a terrorist organization? Like realpage?
Trump is giving us all a bone. Let's chew on it real good. If I knew of any such terrorists in Mexico, I would totally love to see them meet US ordinance. Give them a middle finger for us all. Kind of unfortunately the militants tend to be poor people who are compelled by some abusive entity to do their bidding.
Trump’s order, part of broader measures on border security, could allow asset seizures and sanctions against cartels
In foreign borders?
You make it sound like they haven't done this before.
I thought (hoped) they do get smarter. Everywhere USA interfered is now a mess.
And with Trump wanting to concentrate more on domestic things... weird that they (conservative leaders) then always want to increase their borders, despite already not being able to maintain the areas they have.
Only if they follow up by shutting down gun stores because they're aiding and abetting terrorist organizations by knowingly selling ridiculous amounts of arms that ultimately wind up in terrorist cartel hands.
US authorities didn't even bother prosecuting specific individuals from HSBC's US branch involved in money laundering for cartels, HSBC's US branch only had to pay a fine.
To be fair, $1.9 billion + $665 million in civil penalties is a good sized fine for laundering $881 million (that the Feds know of).
I'm sure HSBC won't make that mistake again, unless the profit motive overrides the risk again.
do you mean the amount of american guns going over the border?
Yes.
Anyone laying odds for how long it’ll take for Trump to decide to invade Mexico? I’d give it two quarters, max.
Predicting he'll call Mexico an "American protectorate" or some other bullshit before/during/after he invades.
If Mexico becomes part of the US at least we'll get rid of a lot of the immigration controversy, right? Right?!
Precisely in the way that electing Trump will stop the Palestinian genocide.
it won't be an invasion.
it will be a special military operation.
3 days in and out, just like Ukraine.
It's going to be a shit show when the next president takes over and has to get us out of conflicts with all of our neighbors. I suspect in the end we'll end up losing territory rather than gaining any, and we'll be sanctioned to hell by the rest of the world and paying reparations out the ass for generations.
Honestly... Can I be part of the territory that the US loses please? Thx
i hope France, Denmark, Poland, and Ukraine are responsible leaders of the free world
Special Freedom Operation.
I mean it only makes sense to own the land with shores on the gulf of America.
Can EU just declare maga as terrorist, then invade us to liberate us?
If your country has anyone in it that the US has decided to call "terrorists," better start massing troops.
Very clever. Very very clever. Labelling them as terrorists gives the US the grounds for invading a country, as it has done before. As Russia did with Ukraine by claiming it's infested with nazis.
Unfortunately it's not clever enough, as some regular dude like me can see right through it. But I guess being more clever is not necessary anymore.