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I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of 'hitlerites'

I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?

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[–] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago) (1 children)

Note: being on Lemmy for about a year, I didn't live through the early days of this place. Here's what I can recollect, as neutrally given as possible.

TL;DR The recent conflicts between two politically different groups on Lemmy have radicalized many people, and many Hexbear residents in particular. Unless you are to discuss the far-left ideas and are very radical about disadvantaged groups, you are safe to block it.

Hexbear is a far-left (as in actually communist) anti-discrimination community, initially more of a safe haven to promote equality and foster a healthy and welcoming place for leftists to come together.

With core developers of Lemmy also being far-left, Hexbear naturally fitted the landscape along with the official Lemmy.ml, heavy far-left Lemmygrad.ml and others.

As time went on, however, all sorts of left-leaning and apolitical folks, not just far-left, came to the platform, filling other instances like Lemmy.world (now the most populated of them all), sh.itjust.works and many others.

As a result, Lemmy has two groups of people with radically different political views: one is a group of more or less organized far-left, and the other is everyone else, most commonly liberals. This distinction has caused a lot of conflicts and heated discussions based on political adherence.

Most notable case is latest US elections. The far left side generally called not to vote Democrat as Biden has failed to deliver on many of his promises and empowered Israel to commit war crimes in Palestine, while the liberal audience called to vote Democrat to not let Republicans take the lead, which may arguably lead to an even worse outcome than unaccountable Dems can make.

This divide has raised a lot of mutual hostility, brigading, and uncivil behavior, which has radicalized many on both sides of the conflict, the consequences of which you have got to experience.

What to do with that is up to you to decide. Hexbear is very politically uniform and very political overall, so if you're not here to discuss communism, you won't lose much and will gain additional peace of mind.

[–] Babalugats@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 4 minutes ago)

I'm being a little pedantic here, but "far left (as in actually communist)" wasn't a thing until these recent online debates and forming groups started putting labels on groups and putting them into boxes. Communists are not necessarily left, nor far left. It feels a bit weird to 'put' them anywhere. That said, I know nothing about hexbear or this little group on Lemmy and how they identify..

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 minutes ago* (last edited 10 seconds ago)

Hexbear is pretty overwhelmingly queer/trans and anarchist/communist.

If you've never run into a transfem communist IRL it's probably because you're not in many queer or left wing organizing spaces.

I'm actually pretty new to Lemmy in the last year and in that time I've seen way more .world posters being toxic about .ml/hexbear and making vague posts about how bad they are. I have to imagine that's why you're now seeing backlash to .world. Also most of the time I see people complaining about these instances and I dig into the modlog it's overwhelmingly because they got banned at some point for being reactionary and are bent out of shape about it.

Here's my take...

They're more cohesive and insular than most groups you'll find on social media.

They've brewed their own strongly held culture and ideology.

Many are also used to being ostracised by other communities due to sexual preferences or other personal attributes.

The result is, if you naively post in a thread in which they are active your opinion will get stomped on if it does not directly align with theirs.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (6 children)

ITT: everyone says they're bad without giving any examples, telling you what to think instead of letting you form your own conclusions.

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[–] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (9 children)

Seems this post is being brigaded by hexbear alts fyi

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[–] honeynut@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

I would ask them in their Q&A comm

[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

A place with a high amount of queer and trans socialists that all the cishets on the fediverse mald about. The instance is something like 66% queer / queer adjacent and 51% are trans / trans adjacent. Essentially, a lot of people are very aggro about the fact that they have carved a safe space out for themselves prior to lemmy becoming popular recently. Tldr:

Here's some of their demographic surveys.

https://hexbear.net/post/2687582

https://hexbear.net/post/3635039

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I don't think that's why I find them so unpleasant though?

I don't come here to talk about sexual preferences.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 3 hours ago

It's a bear with six legs

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