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I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
It’s possible to dislike both. We are on Lemmy after all.
The problem is aren't both getting banned/regulated, making the reasoning behind the tiktok ban extremely suspect
Well, no need to put down Lemmy users about it.
Yes. I only want FOSS and federated spyware social media.
MURICA!!!
Just like American social media companies
You forgot mossad
Yeah but the Chinese one is bad because the American one said so.
And the American one is bad because the Chinese one said so.
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Meanwhile all the TikTok users seem to be moving to a copycat called Red Note
That just looks objectively worse imo
The fact that it's hit #1 on the US Apple app store is wild to me.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Yeah that's kind of why people are doing it.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Haha get fucked. Love to see it
Wow, any kind of proof behind that? TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide, which sure seemed to provoke a propaganda campaign against it and pretty blatantly unconstitutional ban.
TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide
Undermining your trust in the US media and political leadership. Ergo, Evil Chinese Propaganda.
Exactly. Yeah, there's a whole lot of things wrong with TikTok, but banning it is censorship veiled as 'protecting the children' and shit.
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This article from 2024 gives a pretty good rundown as to why using this reasoning to ban Tiktok will set a very bad precedent:
If the govt cared about your data privacy, they would create data collection regulations that they could then use to ban tiktok if/when they violate them.
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Rooting against TikTok for breaching privacy is fine and all but if we wanna talk about social media that needs to be banned then let's talk about Meta and Google. It's painfully obvious that the only reason TikTok came under fire is that it was a threat to American social media companies and they couldn't compete so instead they regulate.
I really don't care about what TT does with my data, and I've been called a "privacy schizo" by people at work. I'll mail every bit of my data to Xi Jinping personally before I ever install any apps made by Meta.
In other words, broad regulation on the industry instead of cherry picking TikTok for China reasons.
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We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
You know Americans can be dogshit without being foreign right?
Nope. If it's bad, it's because of outside agitation and enemy propaganda.
America is exceptional, it can't do anything wrong except stop being American
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Not meaning this in defense of Tiktok, but...
If Tiktok doesn't push this kind of social divisiveness in their own country, it's because they regulated it in their home country. They're simply exploiting the fact that the US has basically zero regulations in place, so they're allowed to promote socially destructive content. Why wouldn't they? It's not like what they're doing is materially different than what Xitter, Meta/Facebook, Reddit, and so on do. Honestly, it's already happening at Bluesky because we have no rules and rely almost exclusively on site moderators enforcing social decorum rules. If Tiktok in China is "better" it's because the government there forces it to be, like maybe we ought to consider doing maybe.
The US government just doesn't like it when it's not their guys propagandizing and dividing the populace. They want to enjoy the fruits of that, not a foreign actor. The mask is truly off, they really do think their own poverty-striken citizens are the enemy. The government speaks out of both sides of its mouth about backdoors in encryption, with one part of the FBI saying you need to use encrypted services to safely communicate, and another part saying we need backdoors in encryption even though Salt Typhoon literally saw hackers exploit US telecom backdoors that which the hackers still persist in exploiting.
Let this be a lesson to you all: If you report a post for a reason as stupid as this, I might just let everyone know so they can laugh about it.
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Just want to pitch in and clarify the misinformation topic, since this is something explicitly mentioned in the Lemmy.World TOS, section 8.
Specifically, the type of misinformation that is prohibited is that which is harmful to others. Here's a direct quote that pretty much sums up the matter:
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So that being said, you're all free to talk all the shit you want. I'm only going to care if the shit you talk is actually harmful.
OPs shit is in no way demonstrably harmful to anyone in any relevant manner. So they get to keep talking it.
Edit: I'll concede, you may be put in harms way if you try to drink camel saliva. I presume they kick pretty hard. But frankly, you deserve it for trying.
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They are blocking it world wide? I never heard any news of it being banned in my country.
it isn't. but america = the world and everywhere else falls into the niche category of foreign.
We should build a Great Firewall and make China pay for it. -- Mitt Romney, probably
The New Republic, Mitt Romney Reveals Twisted Reason Why Congress Moved to Ban TikTok
"Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard," Romney said.
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"Hmmm well if you think tiktok should be banned for spying then do you think american social media platforms should be banned for doing the same thing?"
Yes. They should. That is not the argument you think it is.
I think that retort is just there to point out that other social media platforms definitely will not be banned at any point, calling to question the legitimacy of the claim that the ban is because of invasive spy practices. Hypocrisy is loud.
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Yes, tiktok was absolutely the worst, but it speaks very loudly that the US doesn't hold other companies to the same standard
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