Breaking: self proclaimed genius is, in fact, an idiot.
this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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Didn't his own dad say he was... the R word?
You Americans really need to do something about this clown coughluigicough
McBain to base. Under attack by Commie-Nazis.
The problem isn’t the Elon and co say this. It’s the middle ground people who, for the most part, are reasonable but have little education about politics, and don’t want to participate beyond soundbites.
In this case, the phrase works on two levels.
Most of these people would admit Hitler was bad. So, this reaffirms the statement Communism is bad. Even if they don’t know what Communism is.
For others, Communism is bad. This allows them to hear “We’re not like Hitler” about Elon and Co. They have no idea how bad Elon and Co may be, but at least their not commie pinkos.
The real genius of capitalists has been to persuade the electorate that there are no viable alternatives to capitalism.
Braune Scheiße macht braune Scheiße
Is this the whole "Nazis were socialists because it's in the name" thing again? The far right love to pull this point out, ignoring the fact that as soon as he had power, Hitler had anyone remotely socialist in the Nazi party murdered so he could get on with the fascism. The name "National Socialist" was a trick to get people on board. Anyway, it figures that Musk thinks Hitler was too left wing, since Musk thinks the whole universe is too left wing. And it's characteristic of Musk that being to the right of Hitler doesn't even give him pause.
North Korea is a thriving democracy; it’s right in the name!
Hitler was an environmentalist. Proof thaf clmate change is a hoax. Trust me bro, I own a social media.
It's like defining masculinity by looking at Musk.
So she admits that her AfD supporters also support a communist.
The Axis alliance between Italy Germany and Japan was literally formed as an anti-communist alliance.
I was looking for this comment. It just shows Elon's lack of knowledge and the will to say anything for the sake o confirming your beliefs.
Dear Leader says Hitler was a communist so he was, all of you are wrong!
Ah just like dear Winnie The Pooh, who we swear is a good communist, and China is the greatest egalitarian state.
(Ignore our billionaires and Uyghur genocide)
Yeah, all the comments he made about the secret agenda of European jews to spread "judeobolshevism" through communist organizations and annihilate the Aryan race were just jokes about his good friends the communists. Him and Stalin were actually best buddies.
Let's invade Russia and kill 15 or 20 million peasants as a prank.
It's telling that it needs the second sentence you wrote for me to realize you were speaking about Hitler, not Elon. I don't say he's gone of that far, but it wouldn't have supposed me at all.
Communists were literally one of the first groups targeted for arrest when Hitler came to power in 1933. Like 10 seconds on google.
Elon does not read... or at least pay attention to what he reads.
He also apparently does not watch movies.
I think it's very possible that he doesn't actually believe this, but instead wishes that his fans, who are always so eager to kiss his ass do, since in the eyes of most people, Hitler was the most horrible person to ever exist, and if Hitler was a communist that'd mean that communists are horrible people.
On the other hand, Muskrat is so stupid that him honestly believing this isn't impossible.
I think Elon believes whatever is most convenient for him to achieve his goals.
Fair. It's not like ~~fascists~~ conservatives care about things like logic or truth anyway.
Oh yes. In the early 1900s Nazis waged openly violent political gang war against the communists out of love and similar views.
I know this sarcastic, but conflict between various communist parties with slightly different views have been quite common in history
Pretty big difference though, the Nazis specifically targeted "Judeo-bolshevism" and were formed specifically to combat rising Communist sympathies and organization.
Conflicts between Communist orgs usually arose from incompatible differences in principle, such as whether or not to support such and such Socialist org, and usually the fighting isn't based on extermination like it was in Nazi Germany with the Night of Long Knives.
Ahh so elon is now publicly declaring he doesn't know what he is talking about.
Don't think he's actually that stupid unfortunately, this goes deeper than that and is far more manipulative
Now? Always has been.
That's what he always does right?
Which shows how much they don't know about history. Given that Weidel talked about rather fictious versions of schools in Germany, I'd say that she did not spend enough time to learn anything worthwhile in there.
Breaking: Fascists are fucking stupid, more news at 11.
Corrected Title: Two fascists agree Hitler was a communist.
Fucking idiots. Does it mean that Trump is a communist?
Ba dum tsss
So ... then they're both communists too?
Read George Orwell "1984"!
Then why do you love him so much?
Why do they lie in a way that makes their hero be on the opposite side as them?
Hitler scares right wingers because he turned the colonialism that Western Europe plundered and looted the rest of the world towards Western Europe itself. Lebensraum was settler-colonial, after all. However, right wingers are fascinated by such an idea and wish to replicate it on their terms.
Eh, three arrows isn't really a good source either. Being against Socialism/Communism (one of the arrows in the 3) is a big red flag for attacking claims of Nazis being Socialist. A much better source would be Blackshirts and Reds by Dr. Michael Parenti.
Here's where the arrows come from. Figures that social democrats aren't authoritarians and thus don't like tankies which the KPD very much was. Calling them, at least at that time, "against socialism" is gross libel. (Technically the SPD still hasn't abandoned socialism, at least when you look into their party programme, but new labour etc).
I guess a much bigger red flag is coming from a .ml instance and re-heating "social fascist" rhetoric against SocDems.
...can't believe I'm actually defending the traitor party but it's against tankies so meh.
I'm aware that the Three Arrows symbol originated from the Iron Front, I believe you are mistaken when you say Social Democracy is Socialist. Socialism is foundationally anticapitalist, Social Democrats wish to retain Capitalism and harness it to expand safety nets and social programs. This isn't about "tankies" or whatever, Social Democrats are opposed to Socialism both historically and ideologically, hence the addition of the slash.
You called them a traitor party for good reason.
No, they don't. From a Marxist perspective, they think that liberal-democratic capitalism is a better pre-stage to the abolishment of capitalism than Leninist state capitalism.
Our history is shaped by the idea of democratic socialism, a society of free and equal people where our core values are realized. It requires a structure in economy, state and society guaranteeing civil, political, social and economic basic rights for all people living a life without exploitation, suppression and violence, hence in social and human security.
The end of the soviet type state socialism did not disprove the idea of democratic socialism but it clearly confirmed the orientation of social democracy towards core values. In our understanding democratic socialism remains the vision of a free and fair society in solidarity. Its realization is a permanent task for us. The principle for our actions is social democracy.
I'm aware of the claims of the SPD. I explained in another comment why they are contradictory and wrong, such as Rosa Luxemburg disproving them. This is further proven by the fact that Socialist systems have been built by Marxists, but none have been built by Social Democrats in history.