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[–] Tgo_up@lemm.ee 151 points 3 days ago (6 children)

How tf can killing a single person with a handgun be classified as terrorism?

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Because it's making the CEOs and politicians Terrified.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Our most sacred 21st century nobility. Guess we’ll have to cut their taxes to show our deference

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[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 123 points 3 days ago

Because the ruling class is terrified

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 103 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Because they don't like him.

I mean Dylan fucking Roof shot dead 9 black people and they didn't consider it terrorism.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 64 points 3 days ago

"They're making us CEO's afraid, terrified even, so he's clearly a terrorist. The implication that the working class could actually fight back against the systemic oppression we inflict on them? That's horrifying. We can't allow them to believe they could ever fight back. Make an example of this person."

The rich assholes or something

[–] mrslt@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

Crimes against the ruling class are more harshly punished than crimes against the plebs.

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[–] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See, his mistake was not killing him during a Career Day at an elementary school. If he took out kids as well, he wouldn't get a terrorism charge.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 21 points 2 days ago

Dark humor is like food, not everyone gets it.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't feel terrorized. Wonder who does

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 22 points 3 days ago

Ruthless CEOs and other greedy, rich scumbags, of course.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 130 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The dead guy was the terrorist.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (5 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

fine "Domestic" terrorist

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 140 points 3 days ago (6 children)

So this is terrorism but they refuse to give terrorism charges to local militias?

[–] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 115 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They also don't charge people who blow up abortion clinics with terrorism either. They haven't since the 60s - 70s.

If you look it up the courts have been petitioned several times to associate abortion clinic bombings with Christian terrorism but they keep refusing to call it what it is.

After reading about that fiasco I have very little faith our government actually has a working definition of terrorism that doesn't shift at their convenience.

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

Hardly shocking that the christofascist courts of America refuse to classify abortion clinic bombings as domestic terrorism.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

More Sicily than Milan

[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 79 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

"I learned it from watching you, ok?!?!?"

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

CEO's: Second degree murder is the highest you can charge him with for killing a CEO in NY? But we want to torture him and make an example of him so the proles don't get uppity!

DA: No problem sirs, we can make that happen.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

It's been curious to see the number of major media pundits doing the "Wonder how long his pretty little face will last in prison?" jokes while his fellow inmates are vocally supporting him

Really lets you know which side everyone is lining up on.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 days ago (10 children)

the definition of terrorism from the FBI is very... vague

Here's an exerpt from the declaration of Independence :3

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (3 children)
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[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 75 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let’s hope the jury disagrees

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They charged him with terrorism so a regular jury won't get to make that decision. It will be a federal grand jury of selected stooges, and maybe even a secret court.

[–] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A federal grand jury isn't a replacement for a regular federal trial jury. They're completely different things. A grand jury decides if there is a strong enough case to take the charges to trial, or if they should just be dismissed. When a grand jury isn't used, the trial judge makes that determination themselves. I agree that the terrorism charge will affect how the trial is conducted, but I don't know enough on that topic to comment further.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

That's true but the way that a federal jury works is very different.

It allows them to choose people from outside of the area in which the crime occurred.

Making it a federal trial jury instead of a state trial jury allows them to charge this single murder against an individual perpetrated by another individual who made no public statement with a much more severe crime than the state laws that he broke would normally allow.

It's also important to note that making it a federal trial makes it less public as there will be no cameras allowed. They don't want him tried in the state of New York because that could legally be televised which is a bad look when you've already got judicial homicide lined up and the trial is purely performative.

Being that they can choose people from all over and that the process of jury selection is even more opaque at the federal level they can make sure there won't be any nullification issues.

The way they are treating Luigi whether or not he's guilty indicates that it's not relevant whether or not he's guilty. They legitimately don't care, this is about sending a message that the poors don't get to fight back.

[–] Faresh@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh. So that was their play.

[–] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] python@programming.dev 98 points 3 days ago (33 children)

Was he actually Italian though? As in, speaking Italian, having an Italian passport etc.? Y'all Americans have weird definitions of nationality, just having a foreign sounding last name isn't really enough...

[–] Enoblk@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When someone from America says they Italian or whatever they aren't talking about nationality, it's about ancestry, where your family came from not what county you were born in

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago (5 children)

No no no no........it's about what kind of food your mom cooked when you were a kid.

Which makes me.......uhhhhhh........clown? I don't know. She bought a lot of McDonalds.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 72 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Uhuh... And the school shooters? No terrorist charges?...

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Thanks to fucking Patriot Act. The SS and NKVD bullshit should be repealed.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Is there any chance that the terrorism charge is so ridiculous that it actually strengthens Luigi's case and makes his defense better?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Yes because it specifically allows examining his motive from a political angle which allows the defense to question the character of the guy he shot, which increases the chance of nullification.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Publish this everywhere to get musk dumped on day 1

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's more of an assassination in my opinion.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

”We are all domestic terrorists…”

-CPAC (Republicans) 2022

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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