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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 4 days ago

No wonder Pelosi liked him.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 186 points 5 days ago (15 children)

Fucking of course he did. Jesus christ.

This is why I say that the DNC is fully dead. AOC and the rest of the young progressives in Congress need to just get with Sanders and straight up found a new party. This is so fucking dumb.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I was thinking that Trump was going to be the end of the Republican party, and the Democrats would pick up the slightly reasonable conservative position. Instead Trump made the Democratic party if playing to the right a farce and maybe that'll end the Democratic party. I'm curious to see where things go. It seems like one of the two have to collapse eventually.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

the slightly reasonable conservative position.

A little light genocide. Mild indentured servitude. A judicious amount of crippling poverty. Means tested mass incarceration. Just the right amount of war profiteering. Seasonal witch hunts.

You know, moderate conservatism.

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

You forget that financially the DNC strategy is very sound, even lucrative. This can go on for a very long time and things will get worse before they get better. Winning elections is not the objective when money is what fuels the machine.

[–] londos@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Hey hey, it's not fully dead, it just has terminal cancer.

[–] shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 days ago

I can't wait for a new left party.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 118 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That's why Pelosi chose them, specially over AOC. She's the other side of the US oligarchy, the one that's ok with the slice of cake they have now and don't want to push the US into a complete dictatorship just to try to get more. She's one of the people in the democratic party that's most abusing federal insider trading and conflicts of interests.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Seriously. She's just a smarter oligarch than Trump. She's smart enough to realize that keeping a flawed and corrupt democracy is better than no democracy at all. She realizes there's no real point in having wealth if you and yours have to live in some totalitarian shithole. And also, wealth tends to be very vulnerable to arbitrary confiscation in authoritarian regimes. Trump is an oligarch, but he's just stupid and prideful enough to think that he and his will always remain at the peak of the pyramid, and that autocracy will work in his favor.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She’s smart enough to realize that keeping a flawed and corrupt democracy is better than no democracy at all.

Playing Jenga with my democracy, smugly certain I won't be the one who pulls the last block.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

She's one of the ones we need to eat imo

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[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pelosi and all other geriatric politicians need to retire

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Phew, can you imagine these guys winning the presidency?

Wait.. they’re the good ones!?

[–] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 24 points 4 days ago

They are mostly corporate neoliberal centrists. There are very few actual liberals or progressives left in the Democratic Party. They can’t deliver on any meaningful legislation because it always gets shot down by the Republicans or even their own party.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 100 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

He's also recently announced that he's undergoing chemotherapy for esophagus cancer, which has a very low survival rate. It's bad enough that the DNC will only allow corrupt geriatrics to hold the levers of power, but could they at least have found one that wasn't actively dying?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Esophageal cancer only has a very low survival rate in the late stages. If caught early it's about 50%

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

According to Wikipedia:

In general, the prognosis of esophageal cancer is quite poor, because most patients present with advanced disease. By the time the first symptoms (such as difficulty swallowing) appear, the disease has already progressed. The overall five-year survival rate (5YSR) in the United States is around 15%, with most people dying within the first year of diagnosis.

According to Connolly:

A few days ago, I learned I joined the ranks of millions of Americans. I have cancer of the esophagus. It was a surprise because, except for some intermittent abdominal aches and pains, I had no symptoms.

So, I'm not a doctor, but it sounds like he's showing early symptoms, he only has a 15% or living more than 5 years, and he's more likely than not to die within the next year. But even if you're right, a 74-year-old, who is undergoing chemotherapy and has a coin-flip chance of survival, is leading one of the most important committees in Congress.

I'm not trying to be cruel to the guy; cancer sucks and it's awful he's going through this. But given how narrow the Republican lead is in the House, it's irresponsible to have him just stay in Congress at all, since he might miss crucial votes. The Oversight Committee is going to be incredibly important for investigating the Trump administration, and having the top Democrat on the panel be a man going through serious health issues is insane.

[–] xerazal@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 days ago

"irresponsible you say? 😏" - Dem leadership

[–] joenforcer@midwest.social 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Ah, so if you catch it early it's a coin flip? Nice.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 101 points 5 days ago (2 children)

We can thank Nancy Pelosi and her boomer wisdom for this.

The fewer boomers in Congress, the better.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Is she even a boomer or silent generation? Not sure about her exact age but I think Hitler was winning the war when she was born.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 days ago

Boomer is a state of mind.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 72 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The new and improved democratic party is back in business everyone!

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 4 days ago

🌎👩🏼‍🚀🔫👩🏼‍🚀

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I hope she trips again, and this time, never gets up again.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 5 days ago (15 children)

It should be illegal to own stocks as a Senator.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Sounds like a perfect match for that shithead pelosi.

[–] ramsorge@discuss.online 45 points 5 days ago (3 children)

So, they meet the qualifications. Got it.

Dems do insider trading, Reps do rape. Nice people.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 12 points 4 days ago

And both of them fuck you over and over.

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BuT iT wAs HiS tUrN!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

On top of being 74 and one month fresh off a throat cancer diagnosis...

Edit:

He announced it the day after he won the election, it would be a huge coincidence if that's the day he received, he more likely just his it from voters...

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Fucking hope motherfucker dies screaming. The Democratic Party is done.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

You know I thought it was low effort cringe when I first heard "demacrips and rebloodpicans" in a body count song, but Im starting to like it more by the day

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

So an unsurprising pick for the "good" party.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Would you people be done with this group of inept septuagenarians called the DNC. Pluck out a liberal from 30-40 years ago and show them everything their going to lose and they would puke in their mouth. It's the same people that have virtually given our government away since Reagan. They fucking suck at this, be done with the DNC and don't give me any two party bullshit. What you have is one party where they both desperately drive you into the others arms. There won't be a two party system moving forward. Mark my words, we are done with free and fair elections.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Being in the senate and congress will become increasingly a status symbol and effective tool for getting health care for oneself and one's family. Otherwise it will be about as useful as it was during the slow slide from the Roman Republic to the Roman Empire. But being America it will happen much faster.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 5 days ago

I have an idea:

  • get people who desperately need health insurance together
  • elect one of them for Congress
  • they perform the minimum amount of days needed to get health insurance for life
  • resign
  • Governor sets special election
  • next person runs for office
  • repeat until everyone has insurance
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[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

You couldn't write this and have someone think it was realistic.

What the actual fuck DNC? Pelosi? Corrupt pieces of shit just protecting themselves

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