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[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 94 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Battery prices are collapsing and we are at an inflection point where electric vehicles will soon be more economical to purchase, drive and maintain for a much greater number of people. This is as inevitable as the phaseout of coal.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Solar panels also seems to be on a tipping point

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh it tipped a few years ago. It's just still being implemented. There may be less startup to ramping up fossil fuel plants still, but solar is cheaper to build and operate

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[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Yeah, I was shopping for lithium on phosphatase leisure batteries maybe two years ago and was looking at spending over £1000 per battery. Now those batteries are not much over £100 and prices still seem to be falling.

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[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sodium ion batteries are also supposedly gearing up to be a solid li-ion alternative in the next 2-3 years. Not as energy dense yet but they're closing the gap.

Fingers crossed that pans out.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Not only that, but lithium sulfur is coming too.

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[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago

I'd broaden that to a whole host of "green" and "alternative energy" sectors.

All the panic about Chinese "overproduction" of EVs and similar technologies is just China going whole hog on those industries. It's not an "overproduction" in the traditional sense, where a company produces more than the market will bear and has to sell excess inventory at a loss. China just produces all of this stuff cheaply and at a huge scale.

About 20 years ago the general perception was that EVs were a joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2HX5wsQVEA Now we have cost effective solar and wind, efficient battery storage, good and cheap EVs and drones, modern heat pumps etc.

I don't even think all the tariffs will matter in the long run. China is currently adopting all that stuff at a breakneck pace. Their production capacity won't just go away once they've saturated the domestic market and the growing number of countries that have trade agreements with China). At that point, Chinese manufacturers will have no choice but to start actually selling below cost, just so they can clear inventory.

And this has a snowball effect too. Energy is often the limiting factor in production. An abundance of cheap energy makes it cheaper to produce more cheap energy production.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Unless you live in the US where tarrifs will keep that from being a reality.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Thanks to COVID and speeding mRNA research we are at the cusp of curing many auto-immune diseases. I'm 47 with a kid with diabetes and another with celiac. I'm confident both will be cured in my lifetime

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Fuck yeah. Science, bitch!

[–] Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world 35 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I am about to go on a date!

[–] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Dazed_Confused@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, I was worried that I had forgotten the art of dating, but it seems that there will be another! I don't know how it will end up, but for now I'm happy!

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[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Have a great time and be sure to tell lemmy all about it afterwards!

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully we're about to have dozens of Luigis. That's something to celebrate.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nintendo should see that Luigi is trending and make some more games. For... Reasons.

[–] Starbuncle@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

A Nintendo Hitman clone where you play as Luigi and have to take revenge on Bowser's cronies because they stopped Mario from getting treatment when he needed it.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There's a bloke on Youtube who actually purveys good news on a regular basis if anyone's interested: https://www.youtube.com/@itsSamBentley

[–] SpikedPunchVictim@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Thanks for sharing this!

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (3 children)

People now about solar but I think most people don't know that the 21st century will become dominated by solar really fast. The growth will be exponential and in the coming decade we'll really see it happening at a ridiculous pace.

It'll also be really cheap and complemented by cheap storage. It always sounds like it's 50 years away but in reality electrification is coming in so fast and cheap where the developing world will leap frog fossil fuels.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you're a homeowner you can almost certainly buy solar in a manner where the monthly financing will be similar to what you save in monthly electric bills. So it's a wash.

This year.

The difference is that electric bills will go up, while the financing terms stay the same.

[–] USNWoodwork@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Looked into this a few years ago and you could have said the same then. The problem was the deal with the financing had all these weird caveats when you looked into the details like you didn't own the panels, and any cost would transfer with the sale of the house, it was like a forever rental with no upgrades ever.

When we get to the point that you can get solar added, and own everything, and can pay for it without financing with a positive ROI in 3 years, that's the tipping point.

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All those early access games I bought will get updates in 2025.

I'm now on a Early Access conveyor belt. Every few months, something I've been waiting for gets a new update. I got like 10 games that I rotate between, with new ones being added and old ones getting dropped off.

And they're all big with their community support.

Im very excited.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The corporate real estate market is going to tank, people are going to turn their empty office building caused by everyone working from home into apartments, and rental prices are going to crash because of how desperate the corps are to bring in any money. Once rental market tanks, housing market tanks, and all those massive investment firms buying up neighborhoods are going to see their investment shrink like a cold Wang doodle. Expect crying ceo's and a massive government bailout in the next 4-7 yes for this exact scenario.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I know turning office buildings into apartments seems like a fantastic idea on the surface but there are a LOT of reasons this doesnt work, ranging from fire code issues, utility service locations and access and HVAC design. Sorry.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 days ago

How is that good? Rich people will get away with it and we will pay the price.

[–] Prime_Minister_Keyes@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Jubilee is coming. Whether that's good or not in your book probably depends on whether you are a devout Catholic, but its certainly a rare event.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

you are not about to be kicked in the nads by me....

...but one of you will be.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 5 days ago

Humanity will probably die out in the next hundred years and the planet will finally be able to recover, even if it has to start over from microbes to get there.

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