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[–] evanuggetpi@lemmy.nz 58 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I used to have a Pitbull, such a beautiful girl, who one day chased and killed one of our cats she'd grown up with. My friend had her brother, such a beautiful boy, who one day chased and killed one of their cats.

Last week, on my lifestyle block, two Pitbulls appeared and killed my chickens before I could stop them. I chased the fuckers off but haven't found where they came from.

That is all.

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[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Every couple of weeks I feed mine a toddler, it seems to keep the violent tendencies away.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm not a dog breed expert, but...

The other day an agressive dog that looked like a pitbull, suddenly lunged at me barking loudly... It was about 10ft away from me but still scared the shit out of me

The owner yanked the dog back on its leash and i thought, "FML, the only thing that saved me from a deadly mauling was a 3/4 inch wide piece of nylon with a metal clip the guy bought off amazon for $5"

[–] Seraph@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"But my little velvet hippo couldn't hurt anyone!"

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s funny they call them hippos considering that hippos are extremely dangerous and vicious wild animals.

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

And hippos too are known to turn on their human caretakers out of nowhere.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair most won’t, but they definitely can and do.

Especially when they are jaws on legs that are more inclined compared to other dogs.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Yup. I've crunched the numbers before, and it's something like 1 in 10,000 pit bulls will attack a human or other companion animal every year. It's not likely for any given pit to attack a person (which I can anecdotally support–they're obnoxiously friendly and loving in my experience), but it's also like 10 times more than the next most vicious breed. In my opinion, it's not worth euthanizing every member of the breed, but it is worth neutering every one. We don't need dog breeds, especially ones responsible for over half of the violent attacks on people and other animals.

Of course, I'm in support of neutering all companion animals to reduce the stray population and ease the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Of course, I’m in support of neutering all companion animals to ease the stray population and the strain on shelters, regardless of breed or species. Breed specific laws are only one step towards fixing the larger problem.

Bob Barker is smiling down on you from heaven for this

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[–] Seraph@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The actual issue is that's it's a degenerative disease in dogs of similar breeds. At some point they get old and less able to recognize friend from foe. That might be ok if it weren't for the jaws you mentioned.

[–] snipgan@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly.

I'd go one step farther and even say if they even had the same amount of attacks as other dogs, had no possible mental diseases, and all want to caring homes I would still put restrictions/ban on them.

They are just too large to handle, too big of a bite to brush off, and end up in dog attacks a lot. That's enough for me.

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[–] solstice@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (27 children)

My neighbor has a pit mix and it snarled at me gnashing its teeth once as she walked by. I was just standing there by my car minding my own business barely even acknowledging them. I jump and yell Jesus wtf lady omg. She just made pathetic excuses, he keeps me safe, never does that, it's fiiiiine etc. Ive told her numerous times she needs to train it at the bare minimum, preferably destroy it. I've observed it doing the same to other people as they walk past. I bought pepper spray and look out for them very carefully whenever I go to my car now. I bet it's just a matter of time before someone gets mauled and I hope it's not me. Fucking hate those things.

[–] bufordt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

After watching my cop neighbor try to drive a dog away with pepper spray, it's not going to help much. Even direct hits to the eyes didn't seem to affect the dog much.

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[–] snipgan@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (25 children)

Unsurprising. Large “power breeds” like pit bulls I have always found questionable to have.

No restrictions or licenses? No muzzles at least?

A good thing they banned them.

Though I still dislike the outright malice and hate I see when a pit bull in a photo might be doing nothing but staring at a sunset. A bit hate crazy.

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[–] Pieresqi@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pity, teachers should have a good pitbulls to stop the bad ones.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This isn't the time to discuss pitbull control.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 17 points 1 year ago

They are poor misbreeds anyway.

[–] Jonny@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I do wonder how much is the breed and how much is shitty owners being attracted to perceived scary breeds. My guess would be a bit of both.

[–] JasSmith@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t need to train a pointer puppy to point. They do it from birth. You don’t need to train a sheep dog to herd. They do it from the moment they can walk. You don’t need to teach a pit bull to latch and shake. They also do that from birth. Training can mitigate the risk, but they’re still very dangerous dogs.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's a story that a family dog got loose after a car crash. They found the dog a few days later ... herding sheep. No one ever taught the dog to herd sheep.

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[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

You need to go one step further - why do people feel the need to own such dogs in the first place? Some people would say the dog is for protection (from who? And why are those people a threat? It's well known that lack of social and communal services lead to young people ending up involved with gangs and violence), others use it as a status symbol (don't even get me started on consumerism, and commodification of natural shit like animals), and in almost all cases there is a lot of toxic masculinity involved.

These are all deep rooted systemic issues that go far beyond both dogs and owners (don't get me wrong - I am not excusing bad dog ownership, and don't think people should be raising violent and aggressive dogs), and they all need addressing to actually resolve the problem, but it's much easier for those in charge to focus on the end result, and make it an individual issue, they don't care about making society better, they just want power and money.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago

The problem is that there's no way to tell a bad owner from a good one, which is how we end up in situations like this. I've almost had my throat torn out as I made my way to the bus stop because a very submissive owner couldn't control his dommy gshep, which was lunging and straining at the leash in order to kill me.

I love sheps and have met some extremely good owners, but they are few and far between compared to the jackasses who bring their Rottweilers into bars, where the dog goes absolutely ballistic and starts making kill noises at everyone until the owner has to leave the bar. And that happened last month, lol.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Literally all I'm saying is that the vast majority of pit bulls aren't violent. I fucking said I'm in favor of spaying and neutering the breed out of existence because the few that do become violent are excessively dangerous.

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ITT: bleeding hearts who don’t understand the difference between animal species and dog breeds.

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