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Flight path of a plane that took off from Damascus shorty after news broke that Assad left the city towards unknown destination, which might have been Latakia on Syrian coast which is still under SAA control as of now. Terrain in place where flightradar stopped tracking that plane isn't especially suited for emergency landing

Shortly after crash Syrian Army Command informs officers about fall of the regime https://xcancel.com/Alhadath_Brk/status/1865587913817305454#m

update: it's not spoofed transponder data or controlled landing, locals reported plane crash in the area. rumors so far, but dawn will break soon in Syria and we'll know https://xcancel.com/Schizointel/status/1865593800678130081#m

clarification: there's some chance that Assad went out of Damascus before on other, private jet, so it's not sure and it's all conjecture on unproven information

update 2: there's a claim by Russian media that Assad is in Moscow, so he would have to flee on some earlier plane, but no photos as of now. Still, looked mildly credible at the time

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope to see trump flee to Russia one day.

[–] annHowe@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I hope he doesn't get the chance to abscond and is held accountable for his crimes. Not likely to happen but one can dream.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No! No. No-no-no. Take him and Putin as a gift. Volodin says Putin is national treasure.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Good example of why you don't trust internet "journalism."

It's just a rumour until you get confirmation from the AP. People tend to think the mainstream media is hiding things, but it's usually down to them not publishing unconfirmed rumours while the internet will. And here's an example of why that is. Many of these things wind up being false. It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's better to hear about what actually happened two days later than spend time forming opinions about what might have happened right now

Lmao do you know where you are??? This is NCD, I have recklessly violent opinions over shit that only exists in my head.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

*camera pans warthunder arguing over about millimeters of handrail on a 20 year old tank *

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 weeks ago

you don't have to get AP article for every claim, but it helps. if you can get geolocated footage, that's still a bit better than just rumors, many of these maps work this way. this time a few things were missing

[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

You're giving journalists way to much credit. The Pulitzer Prize was named after a man who started the Spanish American war by making shit up.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

True? False? You still heard it here, first!

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Claim your 'I was here' tickets now!

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Can we speed run the Russsian collapse as well?

It’s going to shit me if Putin falls on the 22nd Jan so the orange boofhead can claim the credit.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Would he claim credit, or announce a day off mourning?

[–] Minarble@aussie.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

Probably both he usually takes both sides on every issue at some point.

At least the balkanisation and collapse of Russia will be a simple thing for such a stable genius to manage.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

My conspiracy theory is that Trump will "Talk tough" to Putin and "tell him" to back off and take only "minor" concessions to end the war. He gets to claim that he ended it, look how strong and diplomatic he can be. Putin will spin it differently back home, nobody will buy it but nobody will care because the sanctions will be lifted and money will start flowing.

The Ukraine wont get NATO admission, the US will block it but they will be a whole lot better off than if Trump just removed all US support and the bombing will stop so they wont like it, but the alternative is losing the whole country.

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You know when NCD has actual writeups and citations shit is getting real. Getting Wagner coup vibes, what a time to be alive where we can glimpse into the sausage of geopolitics being made in real time.

Idk, it feels a little too credible for me...

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 weeks ago

this is the kind of superpower that chronic insomnia gets you

join our matrix channel for more noncredible news

[–] Lupus@feddit.org 7 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly guys, it's not the first time I got breaking world news from this community and I am disappointed, I thought this was non-credible?

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 weeks ago

n in ncd stands for news

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, but to be truly non-credible, one must first poses great knowledge and insight.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 weeks ago

"It takes a wise man to be truly stupid"- Sun Tzu

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 4 points 4 weeks ago

The funniest part is it may be days before news starts reporting he was probably on this plane. They'll want to wait for some sort of confirmation, which probably doesn't exist.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 4 weeks ago

Russia claim he's already in Russia, but I've seen no footage of him yet. It's entirely possible he's in the wreckage.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I did hear it here first, you're right.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I heard it first here.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 2 points 4 weeks ago

We heard it here first, comrade.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Well you did hear it here first. It's just it wasn't true.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago

No, I didn't hear it here first!

[–] lambdabeta@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the rare cases where I hear of a death and check wikipedia to still see the word "is". I wonder how long confirmation will take.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 3 points 4 weeks ago

BBC article mentioning this flight. A tweet from FR24 says that the aircraft "was old with an older transponder generation, so some data might be bad or missing", that it was "flying in an area of GPS jamming, so some data might be bad", and that there was not aware of any airports in the area where the signal was lost.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nooooooo you can't break credible news on NCD!!1!!! 😭

NCD: Haha Illusion-76 go brrrrrrr (crash)

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 weeks ago

not a great year for them

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Today is a day of victory for chins everywhere

[–] Shit@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

I watched that live. The video from the airport a few minutes before was surreal.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

Link plz this is crazy

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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no evidence this was Assad (and the flight path directly over Homs instead of e.g. into Iraq makes it implausible), but it seems like it was almost definitely a plane crash.

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[–] harcesz@szmer.info 1 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh come on, its not like the rebels would have any anti aircraft systems... Other then the odd Pantsir, maybe a BUK or two. And even if they did, why would they need anything like that marching on the last stronghold of the regime? /s

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