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[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 110 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

It said the Israeli leader was covered by immunity rules that apply to states which are not a party to the ICC. Israel is not an ICC member.

"A state cannot be held to act in a way that is incompatible with its obligations in terms of international law with regards to immunities granted to states which are not party to the ICC," the French statement said.

While this technicality may be true, it still seems like there should be a mechanism to hold people accountable for genocide that they don't have to agree to beforehand. Saying "oh we can't arrest him for crimes against humanity because he didn't already agree to be arrested for them should he ever commit them" is a diplomatic copout and a moral failure of the international framework.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 56 points 3 weeks ago

It isnt even technically true. The ICC has already clarified that this does not refer to the arrests of individual heads of states, but rather seizing states assets and the like.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 32 points 3 weeks ago

I'm sure this defense was used at Nuremberg after the second world war - unsuccessfully.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago

Oh wow, I can be immune to law if I just don't accept the court's rule of law?

France really going hard with the sovcit arguments.

[–] MrNesser@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't that let off every two bit dictator for the last 70 years

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 89 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I think when it comes to moves as flagrantly anti humanitarian as this it's important to name names instead of letting the particular spineless cowards hide behind the name of their country.

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thanks... What did this guy do? Did he get to unilaterally make this call? (Serious, I have no idea how France works).

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know a lot about him, I just took issue with the headline.

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Of course he is. We are being governed by clowns.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 weeks ago

What a fucking disgusting joke

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

"A state cannot be held to act in a way that is incompatible with its obligations in terms of international law with regards to immunities granted to states which are not party to the ICC," the French statement said.

Anyone want to take a guess what percentage of ICC warrants are issued for people from countries like that? I suppose, this being France, that they actually will protect some random African warlord as well.

[–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 15 points 3 weeks ago

"No my hero is immune to that attack!"

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago

All the fashy euros going mask off for fellow fash zios.