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"There is an apparently new iOS 18 security feature that reboots iPhones that haven’t been unlocked in a few days, frustrating police by making it harder to break into suspects’ iPhones

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Apple added “inactivity reboot” code in iOS 18.1 that triggers iPhones to restart after they’ve been locked for four days"

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 20 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I hope this gets added to Android.

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I believe this option just came to my Pixel 7 a few weeks back.

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Android is already disabling fingerprint reader every 72 hours. So what's the difference?

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The encryption key of the device storage is kept in memory while in AFU state for practical reasons, you don't want to wait for the encryption key to be generated everytime you unlock the device, then wait for apps to restart and sync their data.

A reboot will discard that key from memory and return the phone back in BFU state, making it much more difficult to extract data from a device.

https://blogs.dsu.edu/digforce/2023/08/23/bfu-and-afu-lock-states/

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 16 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Its in GrapheneOS(an android custom ROM) if you're that way inclined.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Sadly I can't, need to keep the stock OS for work.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

If you use your personal phone for work you can do with it whatever the hell you want, it's your phone. If work requires you to do something they can give you a phone in which tondo that

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 14 hours ago

Ah, I don't use my personal phone for work stuff or my work phone for personal stuff. GrapheneOS also only supports Pixel phones.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

Came here to say this

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

GrapheneOS is not a custom ROM

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 4 points 12 hours ago

I get that it's not actually ROM, but this is the normal term used. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions

This is a list of Android distributions, Android-based operating systems (OS) commonly referred to as Custom ROMs or Android ROMs, forked from the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) without Google Play Services included officially in some or all markets, yet maintained independent coverage in notable Android-related sources.

Emphasis mine.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Wait I thought we were supposed to hate on iphones here.

[–] lousyd@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Yeah, I debated whether to post it or not. = )

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world -3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

iPhones suck. This is still an objective improvement to them and currently an advantage over Android. Hatred and blind hatred aren't the same.

[–] dan@upvote.au 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's super cool! I guess I should've expected that. Still unfortunately means you need to be a Pixel owner and to have installed a non-default OS, which is an extreme minority of Android users – compared to iOS 18.1 blanketing every 12th-or-later-gen iPhone.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah... I hope that it becomes a standard part of Android one day.

Broken clock... Twice a day... ya know

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Last week it was theorized that iOS 18 would reboot after 24 hours if it lost connection from the internet. That would be even better, since it would fuck people trying to work around FindMy.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 6 hours ago

Hopefully they've implemented it in a way that the phone can still get wiped before initial unlock.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How do you mean trying to work around FindMy? Like phone thieves?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Thieves, authorities, crazy ex, anyone.

FindMy will allow you to remotely secure or wipe the device. But the device needs to be online to get that request to lock or wipe from iCloud.

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Surely the user could just take out the SIM card and that would prevent it from ever connecting to the internet?

Sure it could connect over Wi-Fi still but the chances of it being next to a network it has connected to before are very slim.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That’s my point. People try to keep stolen or confiscated phones from reaching the cloud. Many have proposed a faster auto-reboot for phones that aren’t online. Maybe reducing it from 72 hours to 12 or 24.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yea, eSIM is starting to take over the contemporary phone market.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The last 3 generations of iPhone released in the US do not have physical SIM card slots at all.