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According to records filed in the case, Achtemeier conspired with mechanics in garages and operators of truck fleets to disable the anti-pollution software installed on diesel trucks.

Coconspirators who wanted to disable their trucks’ pollution control hardware system—a process commonly known as “deleting”—sought Achtemeier’s help to trick the truck’s software into believing the emissions control systems were still functional, a process known as “tuning.”

Monitoring software on a deleted truck will detect that the pollution control hardware is not functioning and will prevent the truck from running. Achtemeier disabled the monitoring software on his client’s trucks by connecting to laptops he had provided to various coconspirators. Some of the coconspirators would pass the laptop on to others seeking to have the anti-pollution software disabled on their trucks. Once the laptop was hooked up to the truck’s onboard computer, Achtemeier could access it from his computer and tune the software designed to slow the truck if the pollution control device was missing or malfunctioning. Achtemeier could “tune” trucks remotely, which enabled him to maximize his environmental impact and personal profit.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 77 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Trump pardons then nominates him for head of transportation

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 92 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Sounds like an awful lot of work for... some reason.

[–] clockwork_octopus@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Money. It’s always money.

From the article:

Achtemeier charged as much at $4,500 per truck for work that often took him two hours or less. Achtemeier advertised his services on social media nationwide, doing business as Voided Warranty Tuning (VWT) or Optimized Ag. Between 2019 and 2022 his company took in more than $4.3 million in gross profits.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 26 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Yeah, someone is going to have to explain to me how $4500 worth of emissions control deletion is worth the money.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 33 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It sounds like it's just spite-modding with no benefits.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 14 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Nah, there's no way long haul truck owners are going to spend money just to be assholes. There's got to be profit in it somehow.

[–] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 5 days ago (7 children)

The EGR and DPF systems used in diesel trucks cause (or caused, it’s been a while since I last looked it up) a big reduction in fuel mileage. I think it was a 2 or 3 MPG reduction.Doesn’t sound like much, but it adds up when you are running 200,000+ miles a year per truck. With the system running I believe the average fuel mileage for the trucks in our company is around 6 to 8 MPG depending on the route.

Additionally the systems are expensive as all get out to repair and maintain. When the DPF and DEF systems on my truck went out, the truck was down for 3 months waiting on parts, and from what I heard from our mechanic, the final repair bill was around $15,000USD.

That said, the fines for bypassing the emission systems are big enough that it’s really not worth it, but some owner operators don’t realize it as many don’t run their trucks like the businesses they are. They just know this is expensive as hell and they can reduce the cost by bypassing them.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

It's almost like we should've stuck with electric trains for long haul freight and left OTR hauling for last-mile. Almost like that would've seriously helped the CAA rather than a bunch of half-fixed like this.

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Im with you. I'd love to know why.

[–] Pirky@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm doing some reading here, too. Seems like the additional maintenance expense caused by the exhaust recirculation can be expensive over the life of the vehicle. This isn't just maintaining/reparing the EGR system, but also maintaining/replacing other engine components that have a shorter lifespan due to the emissions controls. This makes sense to me.

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

You will get a very large HP boost and can get better MPG as well. Also don’t have to add def fluid anymore or maintain the def system.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

According to this dumbass "journalist" and his editor, this is "TuNInG"

There's a much easier and accurate way to write this article.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

For semi-trucks at least, my cousin (who drives a truck) told me it costs him a lot of money to have the DEF systems on his truck and operate them, and it costs him money he would otherwise be making on his deliveries.

I thought he was an idiot, and hes risking his and everybody else's health around him with his attempts to defeat those systems. (Don't think he was ever successful at it)

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

It usually comes with substantially more power, and you don’t have to maintain the def system anymore either.

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[–] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

When you run out of DEF or the DPF is clogged, you can't run your truck for more than a brief while. You get half output in a limp-mode to go refill your DEF or have the DPF serviced. DEF is the reactant for the exhaust that makes diesel burn cleaner, but means modern trucks have 2 tanks now. Users hate it, but it cuts emissions massively. Also adds a few grand to the vehicle exhaust system in hardware and sensors and control units. Anyways:

Time = money.

For a commercial or even semi private vehicle if you bypass even one indicent of downtime by doing this is paid for itself.

That said, the DPF is a filter, and can physically clog and cause an exhaust fire if there is no monitoring software. I hope at least this guy had it wait till it was almost critical and then stop, not entirely disable the stop signal. Otherwise there is a serious risk to the vehicle and passengers.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These systems often cause issues and it may be quite expensive to repair but if you bypass it, it doesn't affect the performance of the vehicle.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

Removing the pollution control equipment and disabling the software results in trucks polluting at 30 to 1,200 times the level of a truck with pollution control systems.

Fuck these people.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Reduced running costs, ease of maintenance, engine efficiency.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So it's a Captain Planet villain, but dumb.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Right, a Republican, exactly.

The way they've all reacted to climate change denialism by actively trying to make pollution as bad as possible is wild. Even if the entire world's scientific community was somehow wrong about global warming, shit like this and "rolling coal" would still be terrible for air quality, but these fucknuts apparently don't care as long as they get to "own the libs". This is peak "eating a shit sandwich to force other people to smell your breath" energy.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

coconspirators

It's okay to keep the hyphen in there. It's more readable, and also it's once again a word.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 5 days ago (6 children)

Why? Just Why?

I mean sure, there is some money aspect to it, fine.

But why spend all that time and energy just to be able to pollute more. I mean, that is the benefit of more pollution? Even if you don't believe climate change, polluii less shouldn't be that hard to understand as something positive?

I'm just... Not getting this. I'm assuming the guy has a mental illness that would explain this, maybe?

[–] drapermache@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Tribalism, to own the libs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

If the "delete" was removing their catalytic convertor and not just reprogramming the ECU then there is a mild to moderate performance increase caused by reducing exhaust pressure. If it's easier to push the exhaust out then there's more power going to the wheels.

If it's just ECU changes it's probably related to the air/fuel mixture it's using. Often douchebags will hack this to "roll coal" but changing this can give you increased horsepower at the expense of emissions.

As someone whose car has a tune but still passes emissions inspections, this guy is both bad at tuning cars and also an asshole.

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 days ago (7 children)

The antipollution on a diesel engine (at least a big one) essentially reroutes the exhaust back through the engine and reburns it again. Before the antipollution devices were in place it wasn't uncommon for big diesels to get 500,000 miles before they needed to be replaced. Now with the antipollution devices they're getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 100k before they start having problems of significance.

Those engines and their maintenance are expensive as hell. It saves a whole lot more than the $4,500 having that done. It saves them hundreds of thousands of dollars over the long haul.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 days ago (5 children)

or they could run on propane, which doesn't make a whole lot of particulates in the first place and is cheaper anyway

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I'm talking big trucks not forklifts.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I actually decided to search this because I thought the whole point of DEF was so trucks wouldn't need to use an EGR like every car does.

Apparently emissions is complicated and expensive lol, so lots of trucks have both.

Newer models however have started creating systems that remove the EGR and instead rely solely on the SCR with a bigger DEF tank and a cleanup catalyst.

I think DEF is still the right direction. Exhaust recycling has a ton of downsides that took car OEMs a while to hack their way around (or give up and plan for 150k mile expectancy).

4,500 for a mod though is still pretty expensive for something you can do yourself. Most of that cost was probably due to it being illegal, not because it's hard to accomplish.

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[–] solrize@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Remotely? Sounds like the manufacturers are up to no good as well.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The summary says he was having accomplices connect a laptop to the vehicle and then remotely accessing that laptop. Sounds like regular old ssh or rdp.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago

I'd bet he's a TeamViewer kind of guy.

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

If you read the article he was remotely connecting to laptops that were plugged into the vehicles.

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[–] HomebrewHedonist@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

The ultimate "own the Libs" conspiracy.

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