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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (12 children)

Too late.

Americans chose to abandon Ukraine when they elected Donald Trump and his Republican enablers.

Russia will win, there will be one less democratic nation on the planet, Russia will expand their borders, and Europe/NATO will be threatened.

Thanks conservatives, 3rd party voters, single issue voters, and non-voters. You really thought this one through.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

They failed long before the Trumpanzee was voted in. This is just last moment desperation after they not only failed to support Ukraine, but failed to stop the Russian propaganda and bribery machine in the US.

But, Americans aren't wrong that they also failed long before this. They failed to support the people in favor of corporate interests. They failed to deal stop the Republicans from stacking the courts.

They failed because time and time again, they would rather try to appeal to Republican voters who will NEVER switch sides or change that minds in any significant number, while ignoring the issues that have decimated support with their own base and claiming to have the moral high ground.

Thks isn't just on the people that didn't show up to vote, but also the people in government that let it get to this point by continually failing to act.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Americans didn't. Only 1/3 of eligible voters voted for the rapist conman.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Those over 18 who don't vote, don't count.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Too little, too late. Just allowing it in kursk.

At least uk and france gave ukraine the green for using their weaponry in russia.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 12 points 6 days ago

Yes, there should have never been these ridiculous restrictions.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago

I’m seeing a lot of comments taking this literally or saying why didn’t he do this before –

You all realise this is a very powerful symbolic gesture, right? This is a diplomatic move, not a literal one. The president of the US would never strike at this time in this kind of proxy war, and this is the closest ‘fuck you’ he can issue at Russia (which, again, would not be said aloud).

There’s nothing the US president could do to poke the Russian bear –other than escalate it to a hot war – other than this. This is an outgoing diplomatic move, and that is all.

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Kill those Russians. Target the North Korean troops.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 4 days ago

Generally they do it themselves, and then you loose

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

There's obviously no logic whatsoever in allowing Russia to attack Ukraine freely from within its own borders while Ukraine is allowed to only defend inside its own borders. And Russia even thinks Crimea is part of Russia by some fucked up kindergarten bully logic.

No war ever in the history of mankind has followed such logic and neither does this one. If Russia threatens the use of nuclear weapons, then it is doing that without any sensible reason and it might have just as well done that without any war going on anywhere.

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