this post was submitted on 15 Nov 2024
336 points (96.4% liked)

World News

39082 readers
3375 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

There are over 100 sick prisoners here with me, all of them from Gaza. Some have chronic diseases, some have been injured under torture, and all of them scream from the pain, as there is no treatment.

One day after your visit, a group of soldiers came with dogs, they came to where we were. They selected prisoners at random from every age group … children, young men, old men. They made them lie on the ground, face down, their hands tied behind their heads.

Then they set the dogs on them again, and then one of the soldiers tried to get one of the dogs to rape one of the prisoners! They teach their dogs to have sex with prisoners! Can you imagine?

They made the dogs attack them, tearing at the skin and flesh of the prisoners […], then they stood them up and put them in a corner where there was a big "iron window". They put [the prisoners'] hands on the window, then began beating them on their backs, their buttocks, and their legs from behind.

They attacked another prisoner called "J.M." in the same way - they beat him and abused him, and brought in dogs to rape him. They stripped him naked and put the dogs on top of him, they were ripping at his flesh, then a soldier came carrying an "electrical baton", which emitted high-voltage electric shocks, and they started beating the prisoner on his genitals.

top 38 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Does not surprise, their are interviews from the older IDF soldiers who fought during the 1960's, 70's and 80's and they talked about scenes that would make an NKVD or SS soldier proud. Simply disgusting and the old coots were smiling and laughing about it.

[–] indomara@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I read every line even though it hurts. I feel I owe it to them, to at least read their stories, remember their faces.

How have we created such monsters?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

By tolerating the disease right up until it causes its host to dehumanize other people... and then we act shocked like it's some new, separate disease.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Why hasn’t Donald done anything to stop this?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fucking war criminals. We had Nuremberg Trials for German nazis, now we need new Nuremberg Trials for Israelis and Russians.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US government too. Blinken and Biden should face a new Nuremberg as well.

[–] blackbelt352@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gonna include Trump on that list?

[–] hombre_fundido@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's funny how everyone criticizes Obama for drone strikes, but but almost no one mentions the fact that Trump's numbers were way higher before he decided to stop reporting them at all. President of Peace, my ass.

[–] Badland9085@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

“Hurdurr there was no war during Trump’s Presidency”

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There were no female soldiers there at all, they brought a prisoner they selected randomly; his name is 'H.M.' and they started torturing him until his screaming echoed in the space - they were hitting him viciously.

Then they stripped him naked, put his body on the ground, and lifted up his buttocks then they brought a fire extinguisher, and started beating his backside with it. Then they inserted the fire nozzle into his anus and opened it…they raped him with a fire extinguisher, and they emptied it inside him, they were saying to him in broken Arabic: "We want to put out your pain and make you forget it"…then he lost consciousness.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, the second part is not feasible in the way mentioned in the article with the victim being alive and talking - putting a fire extinguisher into someone's behind and releasing it will kill the person unless major surgical care is delivered within a very short timeframe (and even then chances aren't too good).

Pressure injuries from to the rectum do exist, as people are both horny as well as stupid/assholes. But a fire extinguisher is applying a pressure in the range of 15 bar. That would instantly tear the complete lower rectum and colon, even in cases where the pressure valve would not have been actually inserted into the victims anus but only released closely to it, as the sphincter does open up from far less pressure. A patient victimised like that would either bleed to death within a short time frame(minutes to hours) or die from sepsis (hours to days) with the first option being far more likely. It requires massive surgical and critical care efforts to even make people survive that - and measures that are easily recognised decades later. The patient would receive a anus praeter (articial stoma in the abdominal wall) and require weeks to month in hospital - under ideal treatment situations and only if not dying before that could be started.

Additionally the substances within a fire extinguisher are highly problematic - military fire extinguishers are almost always powder or foam based. The powder used is highly irritating to the body (and depending on the type plain toxic) and would absolutely killed a guy from the reaction alone. The foam is also highly toxic and irritating in this capacity and would likely also kill the person without medical care.

So no,as a healthcare professional who has seen a fair share of torture victims from Assad's torture chambers, that report does not seem valid to me. (And I am doubtful that a arab only publication would be allowed to visit a prisoner in these facilities..twice)

Don't get me wrong, I am very sure that there is torture and major human rights violations going on in the Israel's "detainee/military prisoners" system and these are beyond bad. But creating false/fake news discredits the real reports.

[–] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

What in the actual fuck...that's deplorable. Fuck Israel.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago

Fuck Zionists

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

The "Most moral army in the World" really showing their country's "Western values" there...

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Jesus fucking christ.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

No. You are not allowed to say this! Don't say anything bad bout jews, you antisemites!