Like, everyone in school knew what SpongeBob was. Maybe you didn't have a TV or you didn't like watching it, but you knew the characters and the general gist of what happens in the show.

With kids on such giant platforms like YouTube, there's so much variety, I wonder if the "brand recognition" will be as strong in 10 years.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m sure most kids know about Skibidi Toilet, the Paul brothers and Mr Beast.

What’s worse, is that the Paul brothers and Mr Beast use their influence to promote products directly to the children. Like Prime.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Many shows when we were kids were just drivers for toy sales though. Product placement was also huge and unregulated.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 23 points 6 days ago

True, but I like Transformers so it’s ok

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't remember the people behind Power Rangers using their influence to get me to agree to being put through what amounts to torture for the hope of getting enough money to pay my bills though.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That’s odd, because I seem remember lots of pro-capitalist messaging on TV when I was growing up.

[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We were pressured to buy the toys, but we didn't have anything on the order of IRL Squid Game.

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I imagine that 10-20 years from now, there will be a lot more young adults bonding over vague memories of videos that they loved when little, but that they can't find a shred of anymore. Creators will have risen and fallen through the years. Some will shut down their channels and retire, others will be demonetized, and yet more will simply disappear without a trace. There won't be a backlog of every kids' video on YouTube; it's not like PBS or Nickelodeon, where popular shows might get officially archived. Instead, people will be left vaguely describing plots they can't fully remember, all the while getting a weird look from those who don't know what they're talking about. They may even come to think, "Maybe I just dreamed it all up?" and give up on their search for nostalgic connection.

Until the day one person finds an old screenshot from whatever the show was and shares it. That's when everyone will flip out because, Holy shit, that's it! That's the show! At which point, they will collectively and slowly realize just how messed up the show actually was.

[–] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm 29 and this is already the case. A lot of the early 2000s internet is already getting hard to find, and even a lot of early YouTube feels like it's been scrubbed clean, or had stuff auto-muted/removed due to copyright that drastically affects the content. Not to mention all the flash animations and whatnot that might not have made it to somewhere as big as Newgrounds. There's a lot of stuff I remember watching that seems to be utterly lost

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[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 9 points 6 days ago

I've noticed with my kids it's more about streamers. They all know them by name. They'll talk about their latest videos like we would with TV show episodes.

[–] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 6 days ago (2 children)

yt has been around for some 18 years now. there are already adults who grew up with it

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

YouTube changed. Of cause it always had some kind of algorithm but The Algorithm is relatively new

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, we've gone from 'charlie but me' to 'charlie pretends he's not a Nazi on a clip from fox news'

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago

Did Charlie get his kidney back? That damn Candy Mountain......

[–] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I really hate it, YouTube has more restrictions than Cable TV now... I remember when you were allowed to reference the fact that death, bigotry, and sexual assault existed. Now on Youtube you're only allowed to reference the latter two if you're PragerU and tying to say these are "Good things ackshaulkly"

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Algorithm has been A Thing long enough to have impacted young adults during their formative years.

At 25 I'm barely old enough that I entered adolescence just as "youtuber" became a career for many people (around 2012ish). The Algorithm has been part of it all my teens though I witnessed it becoming increasingly eldritch throughout and teaching its final untethered form in the second half of the 2010s. Today's 20 year olds never knew anything else as they were 13 when elsagate was in full swing.

TL;DR how are your knees grandpa?

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

My knees are fine, thanks, but my back hurts

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They seem to be talking about it (and by extension streaming) as a replacement for TV. But TV was still a big thing 18 years ago.

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[–] RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Exactly why I heavily limit the amount and specifics of what my kids watch on it. Sadly I know too many kids that have been literally raised on YouTube, and they already act weird af.

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Like Stuart from Mad TV?

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[–] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This sadly reminds me of when an Official Star Wars Youtube channel did animations to introduce the main characters to a younger generation. There's one of Leia where they re-enact her shooting the group's way into the garbage area.

And literally there were dozens of Far Right Star Wars "Fan" channels screaming about it, claiming that no scene like that existed in the actual movie and that they were "re-writing history to make Leia look more important than she really is"

They really are just massive sexists who pretend Rey's a Mary Sue and that Leia never did anything but wear the slave outfit.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 6 days ago

Star Wars fans are the absolute worst. Gotta be the single worst fandom I'm aware of.

[–] person___man@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

I like the accuracy of the eyes growing over time.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I've been trying to wrap my head around this too. Just yesterday, I was thinking "what would Mr. Rogers say/think at a time like this?"

Then it dawned on me that maybe the worst parts of society had a radically different upbringing and media exposure than myself. ^1^ The so-called "violent" cartoons (many of which were just toy commercials) I get and recall people keeping that stuff from their kids. But to think of banning something like (1980's) PBS in your home, of all things. Now I understand why that messaging existed in the first place - we might be worse off right now without it.

1. Insert "we-are-not-the-same-gen-x.jpg" meme here.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

My only hope about public radio/TV, going forward, is that they're already so used to operating on a shoestring budget from the government. It will unfortunately mean more funding drives, but I will definitely be far more likely to contribute if that becomes literally their only source of income.

And maybe without money from the government, they will be more independent, as lately NPR has been sliding right as an overcorrection over idiots that think reporting objective reality is biased because it makes their side look bad.

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[–] inkrifle@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

I still find it insane how racism has become political now.

[–] praxis_jack@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

WhY iS eVeRyThInG pOlItIcAl NoW

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

We have entered an era where everything must be equal. Are you interviewing a highly qualified medical specialist about vaccines? Make sure you also bring in a conspiracy theorist who didn't finish high school but has a twitter account, to present a dissenting opinion. Today at "Every opinions deserves to be heard" , we have an alpha male and a rape victim, listeners will be able to make up their own minds about who provoked who.”

[–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If we were living in the 1930s they'd be the same people complaining we're being unfair to Hitler and we need to hear his perspective too.

Hell, he used the same political strategy as modern day fascist politicians: simply lying. "I'm gonna make everything better! How? Don't worry about that, just trust me and also let me reassert Germany's national pride!" I'm reminded of Trump's ACA "plan" (that he doesn't have one).

And we just let them say that, unchallenged! Maybe someone asks how they'll do it, but viewers just hear a strong man telling a story of future prosperity and ignore any small details a journalist might counter with. In the name of "balance", we let them spread their info hazards and pretend silly things like facts will let people come to the right conclusion.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I like to ask anybody in a tirade against "wokeness" or "DEI" what their definitions of those words are and what they find objectionable about it.

If they can define it correctly (most can't), they usually can't put into words what they don't like about it other than that the idea of other people being treated equitably and respectfully makes them feel threatened , vulnerable, or marginalized. Which is absurd, but expecting these people to think beyond themselves is asking too much.

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