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It feels all but certain that I won't be able to enjoy a prosperous life or get to retire. All of the wealth is going straight to the top. All of the opportunities to move up in the world are being rug-pulled. All of the federal agencies that help keep us safe and healthy are gone. The social safety net is getting flushed down the toilet. We will live in disease and squalor, and the most vulnerable of us will die.

Because I dared to not be a sociopath, I and anyone else who voted for sanity will be deemed enemies of the state and hunted down - which won't be hard, because it would be trivial to build the most robust surveillance state in human history if it doesn't exist already.

I myself have disabilities (which I don't think qualify for benefits) that make it hard, but not impossible, to find a job. The problem is that I just can't bring myself to do it because I don't get what the fucking point is anymore. I have to work so hard to get out of this rut just for some fascist fuck to kill me or toss me into a torture facility before I can even experience life on my own.

Have you been in a similar headspace and were able to escape it? If so, what snapped you out of it?

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[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

lots of denial, nicotine, and THC

not a fix but will definitely smooth some of the rough edges out a tiny bit

if all else fails my grandfather says to run in circles screaming and shouting

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I work because I enjoy healthcare, food, and shelter. The system has always been rigged, so you just have to find something you enjoy (or can tolerate doing). Ideally try to think about things that make you happy and can pay you, and maybe try doing something in that field.

When I go on vacation to tropical states there are always some overly tanned boat captains that just drive drunk tourists around and get paid decently well for it. I always think about those guys when I'm having a hard day at work, "man, they sure figured it out"

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 9 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Don't think too much, you get depressed. Do like everyone else, buy shit you don't need and get likes on social media by bored strangers.

And watch Fight Club.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've tried this. Now my house is full of consumer garbage that doesn't make me happy and in fact frustrates me by cluttering my life.

At least I don't have to find a place to store likes.

List your useless shit on a buy nothing group. Chat with the people who pick up said shit and learn about their circumstances. If they're not psychos/grifters, set up means to keep in touch. Repeat this process. Pay attention to things those people need/their circumstances, and connect people who can help each other. Encourage others you meet to do the same.

Keep it up long enough, and bam, you have the bones of a mutual aid group.

I'm talking out of my ass here, but hmm...

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[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I work to have money for shelter and food and, just as importantly, some spending money for hobbies and travel. The freedom to be able to drive basically anywhere any time is a great thing to have.

The inequalities today are large but also the standard of living for even the lower class is probably higher than any other time in history. You can go your entire life without holding a shovel or hammer or piece of firewood Imagine instead having to build your own house, grow your own food, and cut firewood to stay warm. Things aren't so bad.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I don't have any good advice for you. My company held an all-hands call today during which the CEO said "Now that the election is behind us we can look forward to political stability", among other equally insane things. You could say I'm feeling pretty down about the whole situation as well.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

A mentor once gave me an exercise to identify my "core values" or goals or motivators. Out of a list of 60, the task was to narrow down over time and conversation to my top 5.

E.g., I value financial stability. Not to be confused with other values of earning high compensation or achieving lofty corporate positions and recognition.

It helped me frame for myself that I'm going to work to be comfortable and stable and beyond that, my motivations lie elsewhere, like spending time with friends and working on personal projects. There are people who put greater value on achieving a high salary or earning the c-suite title or having their names on patents; that's perfectly valid and great for them, it's not me and that is also ok.

There are tons of similar exercises online. If it sounds like something that might help you define your perspective on work differently, to narrow it down to you instead of getting overwhelmed with the whole world's problems, please look into it and good luck.

[–] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I feel ya brother. I’m 41 and wondering why the hell im even saving for retirement. I’ll be dead before I’ll ever be able to

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you can swing the training, even at the CNA or EMT level, there is healthcare. Purposeful work. Knowledge that helps your daily, and is never entirely useless. If nothing else it will save you from spurious trips to the urgent care or emergency room, or tell you when to use the urgent care instead of the emergency room, and save you money there. Even before ACA there were shortages. There’s potential here for fallout as with everything else, but if hospitals can retain nonprofit status I don’t see much changing in terms of need.

For now anyway, until nonprofit status/benefits get yanked, hospitals pay part of education upgrades. They typically offer better health insurance too, if you stay in their corporate system and don’t have kids.

I’m sure there’s other purposeful professions that don’t have an impossible buyin.

I usually recommend trades. Building something with your hands, again with a skill set that carries over into your household, has purpose. But with immigration policy, a sizeable piece of the grunt work force may be kicked out, so I’m not sure what will happen there but I suspect house building will slow down.

This is why im in the field im in. My labor goes directly to people who need it. Its still a scam and im still taken advantage of monetarialy but I come into work and do things directly for people who need them.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 8 points 1 week ago

If I don't work I become homeless and starve to death. I do the minimum to keep my job and fuck the rest.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have no answer for you. Really, there is no point. Hopefully enough people give up on the system that it crashes and we can start over.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If everybody gives up on the system we fought to build with protections for workers and public goods everyone can use, then starting over will just cause more death and suffering.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

People love to romanticize accelerationism until the civil war start and they begin starving.

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'd say qualitatively and quantitatively, this system is a scam. I get up and deliver by getting myself into interesting shit that matters no matter who's writing the check (excluding Raytheon or any of those other psycho motherfuckers).

Energy security is important, particularity environmentally compatible forms.

Medical services that don't bankrupt people are important.

Making processes easier is important even it comes to reducing/eliminating waste.

Even the seemingly mundane 'basic research' has a lot of interesting caveats buried below the surface.

Find what interests you in this one life you have, do the work to get there, make friends with people who want you to get there (and help them too).

Good luck, fuck capitalism.

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[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It's not easy. What I found helpful is if you can separate work and personal life. Only work for money unless you start your own business.

Separating the two allows you not to care if the business does poorly, it allows you to not feel guilty when your boss fails or the business does poorly, or needs extra help but you have a date that night.

I was laid off in September from a company, started a new company on Monday, they announced layoffs on Tuesday, and found out Wednesday my job is safe. Suffice to say, companies don't care about you so get in, cash out.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Get a pet.

There. Now go to work or it dies.

Consider this practice for children.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

Counterpoint: Don't have children

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 week ago

Getting depends for which you got neither money or time is abuse.

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[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I get the sense from your wording that you might be in the younger end of the spectrum. Although the world can feel pretty shitty and messed up, it's often worth remembering "this too shall pass". Obviously no one wants the world to be awful, and living through hard times isn't desirable, but just like the good stuff never lasts, the bad stuff changes too. The Great Depression lasted a decade, the Nazis ran Germany for just a bit longer.

Those were presumably fucking dreadful times to live through. But the decades that followed were comparatively prosperous for the countries. What's happening in the US is depressing as all hell, but it'll change, and all you can do is the best you can to make it less dreadful, for yourself and the people around you.

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[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, work is always a shit deal, trading life for money but you need money for life also including retirement which is a lot less guaranteed for millenials and younger.

I'd recommend learning a trade like electrician or plumbing. You get fat stacks and control your own time. It takes a bit of time to learn but the work you do will never be a scam since it's you working for an average person and yourself.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is a scam, in the end it is pointless to try, but you gotta eat, clothe yourself, and it's warmer indoors, which all necessitate to generate income._

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you're still young and not too much in debt, try to work some fun jobs, like outdoor educator, youth hostels, ski mountain, or whatever floats your boat. Travel around. You don't have to try to make it in the world right away

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Capitalist Wage-Labor is a scam. Surplus value comes from labor. Labor is a commodity just like anything else on the market, but the price of labor itself is tied to general subsistence plus replacement, it isn't tied to how much value is created. Differences in wages come from various factors but regulate around cost to replace, ie training requires a lot of time, so this is represented by higher wages.

Instead, we should be advocating for public ownership, so that the people get the spoils of their labor, and can pay into a general fund of sorts to provide safety nets, infrastructure, and more that don't rely on the profit motive. In other words, we should transition to Socialism.

I recommend you read theory. I wrote an introductory reading list for Marxism if that appeals to you or anyone else.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

You got me, kid. I had a stroke at 42 after busting my ass forever, and it's been the best thing to happen to me yet.

Basically just enjoy everything outside of work, politics, and religion. Family, friends, and yourself are the most important things in life.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

I feel the same. I found a way to leave the country. Will be leaving in the new year. I have kids and I can't have them growing up here anymore. Time to try something new.

[–] Mountain_Mike_420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Brother you need some help. The rate of decay is slow and steady and almost imperceptible to a normal lifetime. Finding a job may actually help. Now’s your chance to get in where you fit in. Love games? Get a job at local games store. Like animals? Go apply at a zoo. Find people that you can relate to. Good luck man. You can do it.

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