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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 196 points 1 week ago (40 children)

Yup.

You can kiss Trump ever seeing consequences for his crimes goodbye.

Welcome to the new America.

Elections have consequences and Americans are simply too stupid to maintain a democracy. So we won't have one much longer.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump didn't see any consequences in the old America either.

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[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

A couple of people gave it a shot.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago (17 children)

But why?

Make the fascist fire you.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)
  • Because his job will now never be completed
  • Because this also slightly diminishes the possibility that he’ll be politically prosecuted by the incoming admin - though to be clear, I fully expect the Trump DoJ to make Smith’s life a living hell, and to throw him in jail if they can, and perhaps even execute him if they can figure out how to kangaroo court things to that degree. That is not a joke. This is an entirely serious comment.
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why have a trial? SCOTUS already ruled President Trump is a king and can kill anyone so long as it's an official act.

We are entering the beginning stages of fascism people. Hold onto your butts.

[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I understand the sentiment, but it will never happen. Killing "Whites", especially whites named "Jack Smith" is bad for optics. Now Letitia James and Fani Willis is another story entirely. If I was either one of them I'd be getting my ass on a plane to someplace with a non-extradition treaty post haste.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Nazis make new in-groups and out-groups all the time. Loyalty way overshadows race in this case.

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[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Actual reasons from an actual lawyer here https://youtu.be/wFEo9YJjGA0?si=-tQmsAGUSC4-H4jw

Tldr; Every other possibility ends in dismissal with prejudice. Dropping it leaves it potentially reviewable in 4 years. It's still highly unlikely anything happens.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Came here to post this. Legal Eagle breaks it down proper here.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Because the cause for his appointment no longer exists. The OLC memo regarding the prosecution of sitting Presidents means that Smith's appointment is frustrated at its most basic level of inception.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

The Fascists will fire people with firing squads, there's no shame in an act of self preservation when resigning from a job you can't do might keep you alive.

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[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Leave it up to moderate liberals to roll over and die. Way to signal his kingship guys, fucking top notch pick, that Merrick Galand. To think this ineffective dipshit was considered for SCOTUS. Literally a direct historical correlation to the rise of Hitler through ineffective and complacent liberalism from the socialist party. I guess when you construct a DOJ that doesn't prosecute billionaires the whole thing short circuits when the tyrant is one.. who could have predicted that except every leftist and historian?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 1 week ago

I'd quit too. America was too stupid to not vote trump in again, so why the hell martyr yourself for half a country of clowns when it gains you nothing?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 week ago

Guess this election really was the nail in the coffin for me regarding how people were so blind and meek regarding Hitler's rise to power. Guess anyone that's not a leftist really does just let it happen, and the left is turned ineffective due to being labeled too extreme

History will think of today's USA the same way we thought about nazi Germany: wondering why nobody just put a bullet through Hitler's skull

[–] Blum0108@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (8 children)

We have a socialist party?

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Republicans sure think so lmao

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[–] greenshirtdenimjeans@sh.itjust.works 68 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago

There are rules for us, not them.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Darkest Brandon move would be to remove the DOJ policy on not investigating sitting Presidents. Many of these cases were clearly not under Presidential Immunity, and some weren't even done while Trump was President. That should have consequences regardless of getting the job back or not.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Darkest Brandon should have Trump [redacted]

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I still don't understand how this is an official DOJ policy. I always see it referenced as a DOJ memo from the 70s. Who gives a shit about memos? This is supposed to be a country of laws, not 50 year old memos.

But yeah, would love Garland to issue a new memo overturning that policy. Let Trump's first official act be to overturn an existing policy to prevent him from being investigated. Not saying he would even hesitate to do it, just saying I'd like to make it an explicit step he has to take.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Legal memoranda are not just an interoffice note. They are policy interpretations and internally-governing documents. The memorandum is from the Office of Legal Counsel which is an independent subdepartment — neither Garland or the President himself can overturn the policy.

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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

The darkest Brandon would be [redacted]

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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why? Prosecutors dogged Clinton for 8 years.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

from the article:

In late October, Trump said in a radio interview that he would immediately fire Smith as special counsel if re-elected. “It’s so easy — I would fire him within two seconds,” Trump said, adding that he got “immunity at the Supreme Court.”

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Clinton didn't have a rabid dog in the AG office

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That was back when presidents weren't supposed to interfere with federal prosecutors. Those times no longer apply because most American voters don't care about it.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope Smith made arrangements to hide all the documents related to the case. It's shame the US voters have thrown justice out of 6th floor window.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alternatively, he could find a judge willing to publish every single one, unredacted.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he has access to unredacted docs he can do it himself

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[–] ProIsh@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for all your hard work. Very meaningful.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Probably best not to give the Orange Idiot the satisfaction of firing them all. Sure it's a petty victory, but when it's the only victory all your hard work will ever amount to, go for it. The only way Trump will ever be punished is if somehow it becomes legal to punish his heirs/estate after he dies of whatever does him in. Old age or heart disease if I had to place a bet.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 points 1 week ago (12 children)

The people clearly made their choice and intentions known. It’s a shame.

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