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[–] frezik@midwest.social 58 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The Darkest Brandon move would be to remove the DOJ policy on not investigating sitting Presidents. Many of these cases were clearly not under Presidential Immunity, and some weren't even done while Trump was President. That should have consequences regardless of getting the job back or not.

[–] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Darkest Brandon should have Trump [redacted]

[–] JamesTBagg@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

He's an obvious national security threat. Biden could claim immunity since it would be an official act to protect the country.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I still don't understand how this is an official DOJ policy. I always see it referenced as a DOJ memo from the 70s. Who gives a shit about memos? This is supposed to be a country of laws, not 50 year old memos.

But yeah, would love Garland to issue a new memo overturning that policy. Let Trump's first official act be to overturn an existing policy to prevent him from being investigated. Not saying he would even hesitate to do it, just saying I'd like to make it an explicit step he has to take.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Legal memoranda are not just an interoffice note. They are policy interpretations and internally-governing documents. The memorandum is from the Office of Legal Counsel which is an independent subdepartment — neither Garland or the President himself can overturn the policy.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad that presidents can't just overturn Justice Department policy when they want.

Wish we had a remind me bot so I can check this comment in 4 years and see if that's still the case.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It won’t be. Because: fuck everything

[–] tacosplease@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I was under the impression the OLC interprets things heavily in favor of the President (the position not a particular person) pretty consistently.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

That's government for you. If the 50 year old memo is the only thing that talks about it, then that's the basis forever. There's so much stuff like this that there's an actual legal term for ignoring it: Desuetude. But that's usually for things much, much older than that, and they would have been actively ignored for almost as long.

[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 22 points 1 week ago

The darkest Brandon would be [redacted]

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That doesn't matter if the DOJ is just a rubber-stamp puppet for the president.