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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 259 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

It’s hilarious that the entire point was to draw focus on how Biden fucked up the withdrawal from Afghanistan (while following Trump & literal Taliban combined plan), but all anybody is talking about now is how disrespectful Trump & company is. His purpose for doing this is entirely lost now.

Edit: taliban not isis

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 99 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal which was entirely negotiated and ratified by the Trump administration 🙄

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I recall Trump said "they couldn't stop even if they tried"

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Crowing about it because he will use it as an attack later. Just like the tax bomb set to raise income tax for regular Americans after Donald's term.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 95 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Donald Trump is not a smart man. He didn't become the threat that he is due to his own skilful manoeuvring. He became a threat because the institutions that are supposed to oppose people like him have failed.

Now that, for the first time in his political career, he's up against an opponent with basic competence he can't do anything other than flail impotently.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (12 children)

I didn't care for her, but Clinton I would say had more than basic competence, though she didn't really have much charisma, is pretty unlikable, forced out Bernie Sanders, chose a completely forgettable running mate, was running as an establishment candidate in a "change" election, and has a blatant desire for power. It all worked against her, though she did still win the popular vote. Still fairly competent though.

I would argue Harris is in a similar situation as Clinton, though she apparently had the sense to at least pick someone more likable than herself and her almost invisible tenure as VP actually may work to her advantage. Otherwise, she's not incredibly charismatic on her own and could be in trouble at the debate with Trump, though his elderly, stroke-addled brain may help her out.

But if it gets into the same sort of thing like in his debate with Biden, where Trump is just throwing out BS bombs left and right, and all Kamala does is just uselessly flail around trying to address his BS points one by one, I think she'll be in trouble. She needs to cut through the BS and present herself as the adult in the room, and make Trump seem infantile and ridiculous.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait. Who was her running mate in 2016? I legitimately don't remember. Wow.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tim Kane. I watched his debate with pence and was impressed.

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

Kane?

Edit:Kaine

[–] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I had the exact same reaction and had to look it up. Hard to argue with the completely forgettable tag.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

All agreed. The Clinton's are political animals, best of the best at the game, but Hilary doesn't share her husband's over-the-top charisma. She works best behind the scenes, not on camera kissing babies.

And this hilarious meme hit far too close to home.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Literally been screaming this since her time as SoS... Hill-Dawg should have run in NY's bluest blueberry of a US House district and then taken the reigns from Pelosi in 2022. She's masterful at running the inner party show... she got that "do it or I'll burn your house down" energy so few people have (liken to LBJ, Pelosi, Cave Johnson, etc).

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[–] GrundlButter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

Even if it worked, that's just more hypocritical nonsense.

"Biden messed up, these 13 Americans are dead. Not quite as many people as I killed by messing up a pandemic response, or by blowing the cover of American spies, but if I get in office again I'm sure my decisions will kill a lot more people. What were we talking about again?"

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

literal Isis

You mean the Taliban's plan, the US negotiated the withdrawal with the Taliban.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is crazy to expect the Afghanistan military to fight when the US president negotiated handover of Afghanistan with the Taliban

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I mean the afghan military was only marginally less awful than the Taliban, sometimes significantly worse, and they weren't exclusive evils to the afghan people. Turns out giving money and arms to the worst psychopaths you can find to fight the other group of psychopaths you gave money and arms to doesn't have a good outcome.

To quote an afghan before the withdrawal: We have three problems, Kabul, the Taliban, and the Americans. When the Americans leave, we will have two problems.

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[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 137 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please please please start another speakership crisis 🙏

[–] finley@lemm.ee 105 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

ah, yes, the infamous Mierdes Touch

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

¡Ay Dios Mío!

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 100 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, ever since Biden dropped out, the fascists have been even more incompetent than usual. I'm gonna assume it's from them panicking.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

Here's the thing, a weak Democrat candidate meant the GOP could ride the curtail of a natural red wave born from voter dissatisfaction into another Trump presidency. They didn't have to try faced with Biden so they didn't have as many opportunities to show their incompetence.

Now democrats have rallied and the writing is on the wall that Trump isn't good enough just by the virtue of being the republican choice. He actually has to try, which he hasn't done since 2016, and he's pretty bad at trying.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago

That is just Trump showing his usual respect for the military and especially the "losers" (according to him) - those who paid the ultimate price to protect the country.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 70 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Using dead soldiers as a political prop. Keep it classy, Republicans.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 2 months ago

Support the Troops was only a catchy political slogan.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 2 months ago

I hope this thing has legs and plagues them endlessly.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is another guy I feel is untrustworthy just based on his face alone.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It was the whole. Family porn tracking app thing that skeeved me the fuck out.

Imagine being the secret service IT guy who has to build a firewall around that creepy fuck's wank bank for National Security interests.

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

It has a sort of "I raped your cat but you can't prove it" energy.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago

Then his smarmy ass is just as guilty

[–] big_slap@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

ahahahahahahahahahahaha

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's with the devil horn finger gesture two women are making in the picture?

[–] VeryNiiiice@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Pretty sure it's the University of Texas' ~~A&M university's~~ "hook 'em" sign.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)
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[–] blusterydayve26@midwest.social 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Fuck Ron Johnson.

Yes, I know it's the wrong Johnson but, still, it needs to be said.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But they loooooove the troops, right? Right?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They love the troops like they love women: things to be talked about, controlled and used as you see fit, then thrown away and never thought of again (until there's a scandal anyway).

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If only avoiding Trump was as easy as avoiding porn!

[–] bradinutah@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I feel bad for the Marckesano family. It's so hard to bury a loved one who served our country, with all the pressures and hardships involved. It's an unfair and unexpected addition to a hard time like this.

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