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[–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 243 points 1 year ago (32 children)

If I'm not being waited on, don't look at me to provide you the rest of your wage. Look to your employer.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 178 points 1 year ago

No matter what, it's always the employer who should pay the whole wages even when you're being waited on

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is it arbitrarily OK for waiting jobs?

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It shouldn’t be, but it’s US law.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips

An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage.

Fuck this law, and fuck employers that try to skirt around it when tips are too low. Also fuck employers in general who aren’t willing to pay their employees a living wage.

I tip for waiting jobs because I know people work for shitty employers and it’s their primary income source. But I hate the system, not the people who need tips to get by.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Freedom and oppression.

Corporate asked me to find the difference between these two pictures.

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[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's systemic, the employees didn't put the tips screen in the POS system.

[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The employee didn't put it there, but they sure do whip that thing around to let you use it fast enough though.

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[–] poopsmith@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate how tipping is now customary at every single restaurant now, including places without servers.

[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.

[–] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah I've been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like "18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip"

Like WTF.

If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn't see it.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Been there, won't return.

Even a large party... We brought you business, so you lower your service standards?

Fuck that. Pay your staff.

Also, it's uh, racist. https://archive.is/20230906072713/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's when I just let them have the hole they dug. I'd normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)

I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than "here ya go." They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I'm out of town on a one off drop in.

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[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If some fucker tries to guilt me into tipping in Europe like this, they get "no tip", then a 1 star review on Maps and TripAdvisor explaining exactly why they spoiled my experience

Imdoingmypart.jpeg

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

In the US we obviously have had the problem of tipping for some time, but it was covid that sent everything completely off the rails. Once lockdown started, you starting tipping places even though you weren’t dining, and then even places where I wouldn’t have tipped before, if they asked for a tip I was usually giving a tip out of sympathy, and so on. And then lockdown ended but these things never went away. They came in under the radar at a time when nobody would protest the idea.

[–] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problems with tipping culture aside, the eyes in this strip are just perfect. I love it.

[–] satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. So much is conveyed just by the eyes.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

I don't understand how it could ever become acceptable for wages to be paid directly by the customer rather than by the company.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the only people who can be defensible over American style tipping in this day and age are people with an uncommon degree of wealth and are patrons of specialty boutiques who likely never frequent places operated by your average wage earner.

So you know, wine country vegan artisan type shit. The $800 dollar hair salon appointment holders. The $60 dollar tequila shot buyer.

And while they can be defensible over their tipping, it often is the case they themselves are not defensible in their economic participation.

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[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My rule of thumb: if they would refill my drink then this is a tipping place. Non-food places are judged case by case. The rest are laughed at and I do my best not to come back.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I'm a school bus driver and we get tipped (at Christmas and the end of the year). It's fucking ridiculous. One of my coworkers last year even handed out tip envelopes to the kids - and got suspended for it, fortunately. Imagine being a parent and seeing that bullshit when your kid brings it home.

I don't throw away the gift cards, of course, but it genuinely means a lot more to me when I get a hand-written card from one of my kids (especially if it's not accompanying money).

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

BBQ place I go to asks for tips at the checkout counter where you order food and pay. Then you get a number. They bring your food out and bus the table when you're done. But that's it. You get your own drink, condiments, cutlery.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why I would tip before any service is rendered and there's no way to tip after.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I dont eat at resturants and I dont cut my hair so the only people I tip are tow truck drivers.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Why the f would I tip my barber? I'm already paying him for the haircut!

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[–] lemmyfanadmin@daring.lemmy.fan 22 points 1 year ago

I feel this so much.

[–] 0x4E4F@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't tip, ever, even if the service is good. No one tips me at my job regardless how I do it.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am sorry, I am not tipping 2$ for people to turn around and get my coffee from a tap.

Tipping waiters will be my final compromise with tipping culture. I never order delivery from app because I refuse to be forced to tip the delivery person after being charged delivery fee and serivce fee. I also do not tip countertop worker.

[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I’ve started giving 1 star review for anyplace that does this. Especially if before I’ve even received my food. Please join me… They use shame and guilt as a weapon. We can also

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In Canada they don't have a "no tip" option any more, instead you have to click $ or % and put in 0. So what I do is I type in 0000 so they hear four inputs and think they're getting at least 10$ even though i'm not tipping at all.

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[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As it should be (the response, not the asking for a tip. they shouldn’t even fucking ask)

[–] Sprokes@jlai.lu 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's one of the things I hated when I visited Norway. I didn't expect to see that in a European country.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 6 points 11 months ago

US made software rules the world.

[–] haypp@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is that really necessary for American?

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