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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's select and start.
What's it supposed to be, windows and hamburgers?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I won't give it up. Select and Start.

My wife makes fun of me for it whenever we play couch co-op games. "What do you mean press start? My controller doesn't have a Start"

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

"Press the button formerly known as Start"

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you married her for her looks, it could be worse.

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[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did the buttons really need renaming? It's not like options and share or + and - make any more sense

[–] TheAndrewBrown@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get being nostalgic for Start/Select but how does Options/Share not make more sense? The options button brings up a menu of options for most games and share allows you to share screenshots or video from the game. Whereas start did the same thing options does now which has nothing to do with the word Start and Select was sorta a catch all button for an action you only used occasionally, but was never used for selecting which was usually X but sometimes one of the other shapes.

[–] flashgnash@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Options I kinda get but it sounds dumb to me, would've been better as "menu" because it's not exclusively for options, also for pausing and other menus.

Share isn't what that button normally does at all in my mind, sure maybe PlayStation have it bound to that but normally it brings up an alternate menu to start that isn't the pause menu (like in Minecraft and overwatch it brings up player list/scoreboard as an example

A lot of games I believe use it for the map too

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The traditional role of the Select button is actually handled via the D-pad in most games. It was the button you used to change your selection, not to actually select something (that would be done with Start.)

Of course, even in the NES era past the first couple of years menus could generally be navigated with the D-pad, so even then Select was pretty useless, which is probably why the Genesis didn't bother with it.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that functionality for share a console specific thing? I don't remember any games that used it for that purpose (on pc)

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[–] ursakhiin@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

For the switch, plus and minus have a symbolic benefit of matching their position on the console itself when the joycons are detached. It's not significant enough to warrant the rename but it at least is more than just a rename.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everytime I start up Burnout: Paradise Remastered it tells me to hit Options to start the game. No! It's Start to start!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The touchpad is just "big select".

I'm not sure who in the name of all fuck decided that controllers should have a dedicated Tweeting button, but I suspect this gen will be the last of that.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a dedicated Tweeting button

Wait what?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, it's called a Share button I think, but I can't find any way to actually share screenshots other than Twitter.

So I don't use it.

[–] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Share

Awesome, I'll send this to some friends!

Only on these platforms. No, you can't send it to people on your friends list, what are you stupid?

Could we take the guy who put a dedicated screenshot button on the controller instead of another options button and drown him in the nearest septic tank?

[–] kronarbob@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

So... I believe I'm old now...

*insert "I'm in this meme and I don't like it" picture.

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But....we have two buttons right? The right one was always start and the left one was options ig? I'm an Xbox 360 player

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

start and select

This habit is pre Xbox 360

[–] unfnknblvbl@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Start and Back, respectively. Now it's "Menu" and "View"

...or possibly "hamburger" and "restore window to smaller size". Because that's logical?

[–] lukini@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will always call it the start button, but to be honest, menu or options are better names for what it does.

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Curiously enough, the "start" button is now more of a "pause" button. Sometimes also a "skip cutscene" and "open menu" button. Microsoft was into something by actually renaming it to "menu" in the Xbox, since that's what it's used for nowadays. Sony probably chose to call it "options" on the PS4 onwards solely to avoid being sued for plagiarism.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm the same with Nintendos new controllers.

➕ and ➖ are Start and Select to me.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Start and Select for life. SNES was my first gamepad.

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[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My main controller is the 8bitdo sf30 pro, which as basically the Super Famicom controller but with sticks and extra buttons for modern functionality labels them Start and Select, as ordained by heaven.

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[–] SternburgExport@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

The zoomers of today are the the boomers of tomorrow.

[–] Onurb@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unpopular Opinion: The Playstation Controllers dont have an X button. Everyone should be calling it cross and would save so much confusion. Like there is a triangle, a circle, a square and another geometric shape. Hate having to specify when playing couch coop with friends if they have to press the xbox x or the playstation x. I know with nintendo people it gets even worse.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hate that Xbox stole the buttons from Nintendo and then swapped them over just to fuck with me more.

Between Sony, MS, Nintendo and Gamecube Nintendo, the X button can be in four different places.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Well, SNES had YXBA first I guess. But I forgot that Sega also evolved from 12 to ABC to XYZABC, back to XYAB.

It's weird watching these controller layouts come in and change over time, and then Sony just go "no, like this" and suddenly that's the standard. DualShock really was a great design and a massive improvement for anyone with adult sized hands.

[–] Andrenikous@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

They didn't steal it from Nintendo. It was a carryover from their collaboration with Sega on the Dreamcast. [link] (https://news.microsoft.com/1998/05/21/microsoft-sega-collaborate-on-dreamcast-the-ultimate-home-video-game-system/)

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

On one hand yeah sure back in the day I get it.

Now dang near every game is press x to continue/begin so the start button just begs a question.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My nephew was so confused when I kept telling him to press "Select" when we played on a PS5.

You must teach the boy the old ways.

[–] Blake@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, same. I actually forget the name of the button, too, so when I give someone the controller so they can play and they ask “how do I open the menu?” I’ll say “oh press start. It’s not called start actually but you know press the button that looks like it should be called start.”

[–] flan@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should've gone the Nintendo route and used symbols. "+" and "-"

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, are we discussing paddles?

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hello my name MonsiuerPatEBrown, and I use two spaces after a period.

I like to think that you did it here too, even without a 2nd sentence.

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