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Just make sure that Martin takes decent notes so that Sanderson can be tapped to bring the story home. Sanderson did a marvelous job finishing Robert Jordan's giant story.

You think the ending of the show sucked? Imagine how he felt watching that shit.

I honestly don't know why this guy doesn't just hire a couple ghostwriters to finish things, proofread them himself, publish them and be done with it

We know.

So no one read the article? Just the headline?

This references a statement he made in 2023 which itself references a statement he made in 2022 saying he had the same number of pages completed.

This is an assumption that he has done nothing, rather than the far more likely situation of rewrites and editing.

People seriously some basic media literacy lessons.

This is probably not the place to discuss just how fragile IRL feudalism was to actual runs of bad winters and sub-par summers, which were notorious for causing famines that spread across nations. I can't speak about how it works in Westros, but volcanic winters and bad solar weather shifted the tides of history here on earth.

Considering the notion of decades long winters, the people of Westros would likely be forced to be migratory much like the Dothraki.

That all said, it still was a rich world, and I suspect Martin just wrote himself into a bunch of corners.

Be honest, do you think he's worked on them at all since the show started?

He may have done a chapter, maybe two since then? That's probably it, though.

He has no intention of finishing, especially now that the show is done and people are left with negativity surrounding the ending. It's the worst possible situation for him, because even if he wanted to finish the books there's just no way he can do it.

IMO, the best thing he can do is acknowledge this, and draw a line in it. Either hand it off to a protégé or writer friend that is happy to continue the story, or outright say that ASOIAF is done.

I'm entirely unsurprised.

D and D got a lot of heat for the last season of Game of Thrones, but I've never thought they were entirely, or even chiefly, to blame. Most of the problem really is that GRRM obviously desperately needed an editor to rein him in as the series went along, but for whatever reason, that didn't happen. So now he has this huge, sprawling mess of a story that's going in eighteen different directions at once, and just as D and D couldn't manage to tie it all together, neither can he.

he's an old man, who finally enjoyed some success late in life, let him enjoy his last days in peace ffs.

Remember when GRRM was so pissed that people criticized his friend Robert Jordan for faffing around for over a decade and never finishing the Wheel of Time series? Yeah, same.

Imagine you're writing an epic tale that gets converted into the world's most popular TV show, then flown into the side of a mountain by some shitty director. I'd imagine the hate mail and public ridicule he probably got would make anyone lose the drive to finish.

Him and Patrick Rothfuss need a writing camp or something.

The last published book in the series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011, now 13 years ago.

The whole of Malazan Book of the Fallen was released over 12 years. I think he just needs to admit he's not going to finish at this point.

at this point this is a HL3 situation and it's better if he never finishes the series. it will never live up to expectations. leave it be. if you enjoyed the story so far, celebrate that and move on. it's about the journey, not the destination.

Logan Lucky came out in 2017, and this scene is still relevant.

How to kill your fan base by making them wait decades: a GRRM story

Is this community ok with confusing fantasy and science fiction? I thought it was a snob librarian's thing.
I know some stories mix both, but I don't think ASOIAF has anything to do with sf.

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If I were grrm I would hire the last seasons writers to help me finish the books. Ultimate troll.

I sometimes go months or years before picking a project back up, so I can relate.

You can't say "I wish they were done" and on the other hand include in his will that the manuscripts be destroyed if he dies and can't be finished by anyone else.

Good for him. I would also want to pretend the last season didn't exist.

He should just finish it off writing it like a historical retelling the way Fire and Blood was done. POV chapters are nice but when he isn't going to release anything with that approach something is better than nothing so the last impression of the final arc isn't HBO's Game of Thrones.