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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every time we elect a Republican president we have to start rolling the ball all the way back up the hill again. Every goddamn time.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good news! Apparently a lot of excitingly new young progressives are mad we haven’t rolled it back up high enough and are refusing to help!

Wait. Okay, not good news. Sorry.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Because they're not rolling it up fast enough! Can't you see? They just have to roll it faster and preferably all the way and then I'll get excited and help. Yup. Until then I'll be adding ankle weights to you too. And don't forget it's all your fault too.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It is our fault that we aren't organized enough. Empowering other progressives enough. If your happy with Biden you've given up.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If your happy with Biden you've given up.

Given that either Biden or Trump will be the president after the next election, voting for the obviously less harmful one is still a positive move.

Not voting only gives the votes of Trump's insane clown cult more power.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Chips act, green energy, union empowerment, student debt, marijuana reform, etc etc etc. Anyone that says Biden isn't doing anything is wilfully ignorant.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Marijuana is still illegal federally. Schedule 3 is not legalization.

Forgiving student debt is not reform. A kid going to college today will still need to take on a ridiculous debt load and play the job/forgiveness lottery.

Biden very publicly told Unions where to stick it.

The green event stuff he funded is great but it's not novel and he used it as a cover to protect the Big 3 Auto manufacturers from foreign EVs.

The CHIPs act is actually okay. 1 out of 5 things but being performative is good though right? That's the standard?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

See?! They're not rolling the ball back up fast enough!!

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

More like he put the chock block in place to stop the roll and let the rich continue to fuck us before stepping side for the next Republican. I'm convinced he's actively trying to lose this election between TikTok, EV restrictions, Gaza, and gaslighting people on the economy.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

You're crying that it's not legal yet. Let's forget that he asked dea to look at rescheduling it and that he forgave federal possession convictions.

You're crying he only did what he could and forgave debt and hasn't gotten around to a Herculean overhaul of the entire post secondary system.

You didn't see the follow-up with unions. I'd give the Beau of the fifth column video but they're impossible to find.

You're crying not novel enough, WTF. And you're forgetting the green energy generation in the IRA.

You're crying chips being only decent?

That was the easy stuff off the top of my head, and it's just crying that nothing is ever good enough. Crying that it's not fast enough. Nevermind that you're (likely) kneecapping him with no majority in the house.

You're exactly the character described in the top comments.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is nonsense. If you believe that you should skip to violent revolution because you are not getting anywhere peacefully.

I'm (edit:not) saying I think that's a good idea. But if you are going to refuse to vote for the better guy because he's not good ENOUGH then you were never going to vote at all, and the rest of us will go back to persuading the last 3 swing voters.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skip to violent revolution? Wtf m8. I'm telling you to do better not revolt.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I left out a critical word. Edited comment above.

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nobody is happy with Biden. Do you want to continue pushing the boulder up the mountain at the pace we don't like, or let go and see what happens to the town downhill?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I don't blame people for giving up on a Sisyphean task

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

They just don’t recognize that they’ll be crushed first when it rolls back. Maturity is learning not to commit all of your attention to the top of the mountain, but to always be mindful of the boulder.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Just vote and don't expect to get to the top. We're never getting there. We just vote and vote and vote and then eventually we die, pushing the same boulder the entire time.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It’s far from ideal, but the problem is that we let it roll back every 4-8 years. If Democrats consistently won due to progressive policies, the candidates would inevitably become more progressive to capture more of the constituency. Disengagement and disenfranchisement consistently cause the boulder to fall, leading to the lack of overall progress.

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[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are getting crushed anyway.

Even without "both sides", the situation worldwide is fucked. And "neither side" is going to change much. Yes, one is worse, but the better side still offers a bandaid over a gushing wound.

So I don't really blame them.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We just need to help them understand the system better. I voted third-party when was young, and many of my friends abstained. That was due to a lack of education about our government. It’s not about swaying them to vote one way or the other, but just to help them understand how our system functions. After that, if they want to vote for Trump with conviction, so be it. At least it’ll be an informed decision.

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will say it: fuck the system.

The sooner it's gone, the better.

It won't be pretty, but this isn't leading us to paradise either, we are killing the planet and can't even take the foot off the gas.

We need a hard reset, and it's coming. In the best scenario, the system is taken down before the enviromental collapse.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you an accelerationist? Do you believe making things worse faster will lead to systemic change for the better?

[–] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the current path is leading to a bad ending, guaranteed.

And all I'm saying is that I don't blame young people who may think other options might lead to something better.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who believes there are more than two choices in this election was poorly educated on American democracy. I know I was when I voted Green Party at 20 years old. If I can help educate those that are as ill-informed as I was, I feel it’s my duty. After that, the choice is theirs.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

The whole point I'm trying to make is that the system doesn't work, voting lesser of two evils never helped in any meaningful way.

We need to stop capitalism, or we will all die, or at the very least suffer greatly.

That's the whole point.

I'm not from the US, so I can't vote for either side anyway, but we are all fucked. I watch the children and feel sorry for letting them down. They will not grow up into a world of peace and prosperity, only desolation and dystopia.

So while yes, Orange man very bad, the system will kill us anyway. Fascism will take your country, but capitalism took our entire planet.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lets check this persons bank account and see what the credit card companies gave them.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kudos to the paper for adding "trump appointed" in the headline - it's relevant and too often the context is left out.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And I'm sure certain people will find a way to blame Biden for not doing enough

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The m9st fucked up thing of all is that he first tried to not make a ruling at all, stating that it should be ruled at Washington DC because there weren't a ton of banks out of Texas. But they kicked it back to him and forced him to make a ruling on it.

He kind of tried to be responsible/sensible.

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[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeh, but the late fees are good for people. Free market and free market. Drain the swamp etc. Just pay your debt on time. Or something, both side the same, yada yada.

A great example of the current presidency trying to do something good for a lot of people.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

It's funny that the literal industry posterboy for not paying debts on time his entire career is now leading that crowd of "just pay your debts" 😂 He still isn't doing it himself, even with other people putting up the money to pay his debts for him

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

U.S. Chamber of Commerce

Oh. those people.

[–] meeeeetch@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In case anybody doesn't already know this, the Chamber of Commerce is a non-governmental organization of private (and also publicly traded) business owners that just sounds like it's part of the government.

[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This ruling is a major win for responsible consumers who pay their credit card bills on time and businesses that want to provide affordable credit,” U.S. Chamber of Commerce Litigation Center Counsel Maria Monaghan said in a statement.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"This is a win for people who want to feel superior to other people."

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