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[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 113 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is one of the more disturbing things I’ve read in a while, and there’s a genocide going on.

It strikes me that this guy and his followers simply never grew up, because they didn’t have to. Instead of being faced with everyday challenges like the rest of us, their money could insulate them from any degree of hardship or friction. When you live a life where literally everything can be solved with your money, and you’re pretty much guaranteed to never run out of it, there’s no motivation for you to empathize with or even understand other people’s points of view, and thus this scary techno-authoritarianism is born.

These are the people who will prevent us from making any socioeconomic progress. They actually want us all to wear colored shirts and be discriminated against based on our color. Their dystopian vision is genuinely the stuff of my nightmares.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

It's comical imo compared to the actually dangerous religious fascism that's currently threatening our democracy. Aww, litte baby tech bro wants to do a fascism, how cute.

These tech bros are not going to win over cops. It's a ridiculous fantasy.

Tech bros are just gross. This is a particularly gross one.

[–] hoot@lemmy.ca 89 points 7 months ago (3 children)

By the beard, this is some next-level shit. Imagine listening to his jibber-jabber about Grays and thinking "that sounds like a good idea"?

This new "ruling CEO" class is bloody dangerous.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 33 points 7 months ago

This new “ruling CEO” class is bloody dangerous.

Definitely!

[–] moon@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

The speech won roars from the audience at Y Combinator

Starting to get why everyone else in the Bay area hates the tech people

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

the burgeoise is not new, they just seem to be getting more sheltered and stupid.

[–] Haagel@lemmings.world 75 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here's an example of a corporation demonstrating positive socio-economic change:

The Basque Country’s Mondragón Corporation is the globe’s largest industrial co-operative, with workers paying for the right to share in its profits – and its losses.

I grew up in Silicon Valley and I can testify what you already know: venture capitalists and tech CEOs are just dumb kids with a lot of money. Many of them landed in their positions by chance alone. We are not obliged to give them more credence than anybody else.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 17 points 7 months ago

That's inspiring, thanks.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 60 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This reads like someone played The Outer Worlds and was like... "You know what?"

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 26 points 7 months ago

Fucking Spacer’s Choice.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 56 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Oh look, it's just fascism again.

Why is it that when these whackos start describing their fascist plans for society, there are people who respond like it's a groundbreaking concept, some bold new vision of the future? None of this is new, it's the same old tired goosestepping shit.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There have been fascist psychopaths arround as long as humans exist. BUT: when a fascist psychopath gets support among important figures of the industrial and financial sector, that is when you should start to panic.

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

It’s not facism if no one’s allowed to call it that!

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[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This guy sounds like he snorted every 60s-70s sci fi at once and now his goal in life is creating the torment nexus. I had no idea that the CEO of Y Combinator(hacker news?) had "friends" like this?

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I like to read Hacker news from time to time. Since reading this article I will surely remember that friendship.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Tan himself is pretty unhinged too

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Billionaire proposes governance system of corporate feudal fascism

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

Perfect summary 10/10

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The quotes in this article were some of the weirdest fucking things I’ve ever read. Is there something in the water in SF?

[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 42 points 7 months ago

Privilege and money. When you are that rich you aren't really connected to people and humanity as a whole. No one tells you that what you're proposing is fucking insane and awful. Notice most of San Franciscoans aren't calling for stupid shit; they're just struggling to survive.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 16 points 7 months ago (5 children)

There’s something in the water. The air. The food. It’s lead. Microplastics. Carbon monoxide. “Forever Chemicals.” And void knows what else.

It’s poisoning the brains of people everywhere.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Sources and Toxicity of Mercury in the San Francisco Bay Area, Spanning California and Beyond:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7519205/

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Tech bros are gross caricatures of real people. Imagine 35 years of social ineptitude plus billions of dollars.

The good news is they don't have any real power, they just have power fantasies.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

There's always people like this in various industries.

What they are more than anything is self-promoters under the guise of ideological groupthink.

They say things that their audience and network want to hear with a hyperbole veneer.

I remember one of these types in my industry who drove me crazy. He was clearly completely full of shit, but the majority of my audience didn't know enough to know he was full of shit, and was too well connected to out as being full of shit without blowback.

The good news is that they have such terrible ideas that they are chronically failures even if they personally fail upwards to the frustration of every critical thinking individual around them.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck psycho-babble bullshit did I just read?! Are there not random sharks, orcas or other wildlife in the SF area that are hungry??

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey, don't mix orcas in with sharks! They don't attack people. (their boats, close to the mediterranean, have not been as lucly lately though...)

[–] Baguette@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Sharks have a bad reputation just because of movies like jaws portraying them as killing machines, but in reality shark attacks are extremely uncommon worldwide. They're cool animals and the hate they get is pretty undeserved

If you want to look into shark statistics, here's one https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/shark-attacks/yearly-worldwide-summary/

[–] cygon@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

After reading, the gist of it seems to be:

  • Vanilla far-right indoctrinated dumbo (his vision: "Reds" welcome, "Blues" not, "Anti-Blue Propaganda" on public view screens)
  • Wants exploitative capitalism on steroids with companies controlling everyone's lives completely
  • Claims current capitalism is only bad because it's "woke capitalism" which he claims the "ruling class" is pushing
  • Wants tech bros to butter up police and give security staff jobs to their children as a favor, i.e. intentional social classism

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In short, just another out of touch entrepreneur who sells snake oil cures to people suffering in the current system, so that they may invite in the boot that stomps them down for good.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Always good ask him things like "who are they?" or "who is the ruling class?"

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Silicon Valley needs unions yesterday. Curbing these bros' enthusiasm via the ballot box alone would be very difficult given the amount of money they can deploy onto politicians. Without workers, they can't do anything.

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[–] moon@lemmy.ml 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The techno-authoritarian Curtis Yarvin-type crowd have been around for a while. We can laugh them off or ignore them, but their biggest believers are billionaire man-children in the Valley and that will undoubtedly come to bear fruit in horrific ways.

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[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 24 points 7 months ago

“Ethnically cleanse,” he said at one point, summing up his idea for a city purged of Blues (this, he says, will prevent Blues from ethnically cleansing the Grays first).

Conservatives are incredibly fucked up. They can't fathom coexisting with people who aren't like them without wanting to "ethnically cleanse" them, so they naturally assume everybody else thinks like this as well

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Yet another reason the working class must never disarm.

[–] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

Grey suits. Where have I seen that before?🤔

Grey Nazi uniform

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is pretty unhinged but I do kinda get a giggle imagining him and several other losers walking around in their grey Elon Musk shirts.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago

Well, their gray musk shirts—or maybe their gray “bitcoin” shirts. Super cool.

Capitalist brain rot is fuckin strong with . He’s gone straight up fuckin out of his mind on capitalism. ODing on it.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure I read this book a few years ago. It was called Jennifer government.

[–] MusketeerX@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Damn, haven't thought about that book for many years.

The concept behind the story seems a lot less fictional/unlikely than it used to 20yrs ago!

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

That's good old fashion fashism.

[–] TechnoMystic@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So disturbing. How did we get here?

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I couldn’t read the whole thing because I lost interest around the part where he starts describing Grays and their shirts—it’s all very dull because there is a complete lack of understanding on how different cultures established and evolved mechanisms for self-expression and self-determination. People wanted such mechanisms, which is why democracies formed in the first place, and why medieval societies became a relic of the past.

Even medieval kings needed ideals of honor, chivalry etc. to motivate others to knighthood. I think maybe this person is too convinced of his capacity to charm and believes that he’s capable of starting and leading a cult (which is what he’s describing, essentially). But if he was charming someone who’s never heard of him before would be inclined to find some kind of redeeming quality in his ideas instead of being repulsed by his lack of insight and knowledge. I mean, charming people (cult leaders, for example) have a quality where they just make you stupid by their presence. This person lacks the grace, charisma and any requisite presence for such an effect.

Also, what the fuck he is on about w.r.t MSFT? Look at Coinbase and MSFT, a dumb child can tell you which company is more innovative and valuable. This isn’t even a joke, it’s just sad that people are enabling his narcissism and delusions by letting him believe he’s smart or has good ideas. He’s definitely someone’s useful idiot.

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[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

It's funny because he thinks that his status as a "gray" would protect him from the "reds." just another useful idiot for fascism.

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago

America desperately needs to enact policies that put restrictions on wealth accumulation. There are lots of ways to do this.

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Lmao, what a moron

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Counter-offer: no.

I'm not a SF native, but from my understanding, the problem with SF is the NIMBYs, and this takes NIMBY to the extreme.

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