Holy shit y'all. Developers need to eat too. It's totally fine to charge for an app or serve ads. LjDawson is a fantastic developer and really listens to his user base. Yes there are plenty of open source apps to use, but sometimes closed source is way more polished because the developer makes it their job to create the app. Living isn't free. Β―\_(γ)_/Β―
this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2023
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Holy shit yβall. Developers need to eat too. Itβs totally fine to charge for an app or serve ads.
You might be forgetting that these same developers refused to simply put in a subscription to their reddit apps to continue them, instead closing their apps and telling everyone to move to lemmy because that's where their app will be........and now adding huge subscription fees and one-off fees on a platform that doesn't charge them to use their API lol.
Maybe I'm just cynical but this really seems like the dollar signs lit up in the reddit app devs eyes the second reddits API changes got announced.
Okay let's do the math. According to here there is expected to be about 55.79 million folks using reddit daily. Let's say a good 5 million folks use Sync. Now, reddit said it would charge $0.24 per 1000 API calls. You can find that here. Now 1000 calls isn't much at all really. Let's say those 5 million folks just 1000 API calls a day ( they wont' actually use ONLY 1000 ). So we have 1000 * 5,000,000 * 0.24 = $1,200,000,000. That's per day. Does that seem sustainable to you? Like if folks were using MUCH MUCH less I could see your point. But the fact is....they weren't and reddit were being assholes about it. Now compare that to what he's charging. $17 bucks for a year. Let's break that down and compare it to what he'd be paying per day. Say all 5 million users were paying for Ultra. That's 5,000,000 * 17 = $85,000,000. Divide that by 12 to get per month. 85,000,000/12 = $7,083,333 per month. Divide by 30 for average revenue per day. $7,083,333/30 = $236,111. Now tell me that even comes close to $1,200,000,000. Your logic is flawed. This doesn't even account for fees and possible server costs.
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And it's a one-time fee.
I used Sync for Reddit for 11 years.
I'm sorry. I get a developper needs to eat but 100+ dollars for the lifetime is absolutely outrageous. That is more than some AAA games on release.
For some people, that's the price they paid for their entire low/mid-range Android phone.
Yeah, fuck him. Long time paying and vocal supporter here. I'll get the cracked version on Mobilism when it's released
Jesus, the absolute entitlement in this thread. Can everyone just chill until the app is out of the beta version? Some of us are fine with seeing ads until the lifetime fee is available, and some of us are fine paying a subscription until the lifetime fee is available. If you'd rather not use the app until then don't, but trashing the dev for getting paid while he works endlessly to create the sync experience for us is so ignorant and childish.
Sync is by far the best user experience app for lemmy that's available for Android, just as it was for reddit, and it's worth the wait and the price until the pro version is available.
I hope the dev ignores the whiners and focuses on those of us that get it. How demotivating to see people run their mouths when they dint know what they're talking about.
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That was the case with the original Sync, no surprise here.
Although there was the option to purchase Pro as a one-time fee. This one unfortunately only has a subscription option (which I'm not too keen on).
Edit: ljdawson has confirmed there will be an one-time payment options for both Ultra and ad removal!
Screw subscriptions. They're invariably a rip off and I'm not made of money.
It'll probably have a one time fee option. The dev must know that not everyone will want to pay a subscription. I paid for removing ads on Sync for Reddit and I'll happily do it again, so hopefully there will be an option of just removing ads. I don't use either Lemmy or Reddit enough to justify paying a subscription, even though I really respect the dev.
Afaik a one-time-purchase to get rid of the ads is planned.
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I am testing it out now. It seems really good.
it has ads.
and you can't post.
but otherwise I agree.
I did post.
weird, I haven't seen any ads yet
Interesting! Here's what it looks like for me:
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if it's your first time using sync...open new window is a great feature for muti tasking subbed list..look at your subscriber list, press the 3 dots and open in new window will appear, you can open a subbed community entirely in a new window
https://lemmy.world/comment/1975537
Looks like the Dev is looking to add a lifetime option and an option to remove ads in the future.
I was wondering what was up with the ads consent things. The reason I switched to Sync in the first place was to get rid of ads on Reddit...
Beta update released within the last hour adds the option for lifetime ad removal.
Where? I can't see it in the Ultra section??
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Found it.
Β£12.99
The option is available by clicking your profile icon and selecting 'remove ads'.
Not interested in something that supports ads or subscriptions. It definitely doesn't fit the ethos or average desires of most lemmy users from what I understand.
The free and open source applications for lemmy are working out for me, so I really have no need for something like this that goes against what I believe lemmy stands for
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Ads or subscription.
Yeah, I'll stick with Thunder. Having used Lemmy and Mastodon, I realised how much I hate ads.
Yup that is a real rough pill to swallow when the default is free AND no ads. If I'm going to drop money on lemmy I'd rather just donate to whoever is hosting my instance.
Long time Sync user and Ultra (lifetime).
Now I am really disappointed the lifetime membership isn't transferable to Lemmy. Nothing. Not even a discount, a note, nothing.
What?? Ads is the first thing I see.. My dude have you seen your competition? Thunder's latest update is amazing zero ads. Why would I change?
It's full of personalized profiling too. Hard pass from me.
I installed it, used it for 5 mins and uninstalled it to go back to Thunder.
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Lol! The choice is ads or a SUBSCRIPTION!?
My friend, we know other 3rd party Reddit app developers are working as fast as they can to make lemmy apps. One of them is bound to have a one-time pro version upgrade. I'll hold out for that.
LMAO ... Subscriptions. Why on earth do you think we left Reddit?!
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Loving the Foss spirit of Lemmy so far reading the comments
Yeah proud of my fellow users
Storing data usage, personal ads, 21.99β¬ just to remove ads or a subscription model.
I'm a dev myself and I get that everyone needs to be compensated, but right now I have only one thought:
"You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain."
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