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[–] rab@lemmy.ca 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I believe we're already there. Collapse is slow and honestly boring

[–] astanix@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, people seem to expect a large sudden catastrophic shift... but, day to day we're all dying out here as corporate greed sucks us all dry.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That really is the sad part, huh?

On literally every front, of like 50, it's those 200 rich guys driving each crisis into overdrive in the name of adding a number to their net worth.

And cops. They just do what they do because they are shitty human beings.

[–] HopingForBetter@lemmy.today 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

paid to be shitty human beings.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -1 points 6 months ago

Some areas have decent pay, but not batter, frame, and murder ALL the poor and youth level of pay.

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Romans didn't suddenly wake up in ruins one day and decide to become medieval instead.

[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 months ago

I like the argument that the Roman empire didn't collapse but rather transformed into the Catholic church.

[–] FrostyTrichs@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago

What society? All society? Western society? American society? Russian society? It's too broad a question, but-

The answer will always be greed over wealth and power imo. Greed drives basically all the evil in the world and pours down from top to bottom. We already see breakdowns in society when greed reaches levels that cause people to struggle to survive.

The response is almost always violent, until the balance of power is more equal. There are several nations around the world that are closer to collapse than people would like to believe.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

6 years until a massive coffee crop failure plunges the world into chaos.

[–] livus@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago

Probably a combination of climate cascade effects and another pandemic.

The massive captive factory chicken and pig populations are a ticking time bomb, but changes to ocean current and weather patterns have the possibility of being more like someone flicking s switch.

[–] DevCat@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Lack of decent bread in the US. Coupled with some good cheese.

[–] TGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

That's very US self oriented but maybe true who knows 🤗

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Seriously on the bread: why is it so expensive, and why doesn't it fit in my toaster? I used to only buy the cheapest store-brand "bread" but it is so misshapen and falls apart before it even gets out of the bar, not to mention the lack of any taste.

Any recommendations for a good white bread? (White bread being the best kind for grilled cheese; my predominant factor in choosing bread.)

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

10-20 years, climate change will cause massive drought which will cripple the food supply.

Doesn't have to be a complete or even large collapse of society, but it'll definitely hit way way harder than what covid did. Mass starvation in every developing country, food hoarding, some governments pretending to care, some profiteering on limited supplies, the usual.

A lot of the current economic and geopolitical problems are actually solvable even in a final stance scenario. But no one can literally form clouds to replace lost irrigation or reverse climate change in less than a year. Desalination, even on max funding, would not be nearly enough to replace the water that comes from rainfall, especially huge river systems like the Indus, Nile, etc.

Water conflict

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

All these people think they know, as if predictions about the future have ever been more accurate than random chance.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It depends on the society. European culture has forever to go for example, while the main Asian and American cultures probably have about three more centuries. I'm going by history when I make those predictions.

[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

But I mean that's a good thing. Every culture gets replaced by a new culture at some point. We had the roman culture, the greek culture, ancient egypt, the inkas, babylonians.... They all went away. Currently we have our current culture. I'm glad it replaced the middle ages at some point. And I'm sure we're also not the pinnacle of cultures... Something else will follow, if humankind continues to exist.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Martians, Belters, Laconians ...

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago
  • ~10 years. It will arrive sooner than people think. We are already in...

  • climate. ...the unpredictable zone of the climate change. The situation is worse than people are thinking.

On a less catastrophic note, millennials could be the last generation to die of natural death. The 2024 newborns will probably die of the consequences of climate change.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Less time than anyone thinks, but more time than what some people want. ;)

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It will be another series of plagued like covid. Each new one will learn to mutate faster and faster until we can no longer keep up with vaccines to stop it. Time frame is probably a could hundred years.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

About 30 minutes.

Same reason it always is: end of the round

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

Can't collapse if it never got off the ground.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago

Oh shouldn’t be more than a few hours. Reason? Since when have we needed a reason?