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How do you catch up being out of the loop in politics and wars? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 18 hours ago by seanhi@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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Like the Palestine-Israel conflict which a lot has happened since it started, you can barely argue or talk about it if you are literally out of the loop without mistepping because its just a too complex situation for us westerners.

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[–] Oberyn@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Regarding (Palestine|Isræl) being "just a too complex situation for us westerners" :

"Why is it so incredibly complicated?"

When traced back to its roots, the Palestinian question is a remarkably simple story of settler-colonialism and resistance to it. Naturally, it is just as complex and worthy of study as any other anti-colonial struggle, however, the claims of exceptional complexity are often employed in an effort to obfuscate the reality on the ground and limit discussion. The question of Palestine is not exceptional in its complexity, we can trace its origins, chronicle its events and trajectories and analyze its politics all quite well. There are decades of scholarship on the matter for reference. The appeals to complexity often arise when attempting to justify actions or policies that would be deemed unjustifiable in another context, for example, arguing against the right of refugees to return home.

[You can read more about this here]

-- DecolonizePalestine FAQ

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora

so if some empire basically makes you religion illegal and extirpates/banishes your people from your historical homeland, you forever should submit to that fact?

the conflict goes back a lot further than 1948 and the founding of the state of Israel. The jews were refugees for centuries before they went back to Palestine and the state of israeli was a haven from the oppression they faced in their diaspora communities across the western and muslim worlds. in fact most israelis don't come from the west/europe, they come from arab countries.

but hey don't let complexity get in the way of your simplified notion of colonialism is bad and all colonialists are oppressors.