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It can sometimes be hard to separate the artist from their art. Are there any artists who were bad people but whose work you still enjoy?

Feel free to answer if you're in the opposite scenario: an artist who you love personally but don't enjoy their artwork.

Feel free to respond more than just music artists!

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[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I really enjoyed Ender's Game, but even while reading you can tell there's some weird racist shit going on in Orson Card's head.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I missed it, but I was in my early teens when I read it. What did you spot?

[–] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

It's been a while so I don't remember anything concrete, but I remember characters being described with a strange amount of detail in racial or ethnic features, like height or nose shape. I don't think he ever explicitly describes any race as superior to others, but some of the passages felt like it was going to devolve into some weird analysis of skull dimpling or something.

[–] tuxtey@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I searched it up a bit, and apparently Card is pretty vehemently homophobic. Which really sucks and is really strange. It sucks because i do enjoy his books, and they were honestly part of what got me into sci-fi. It's really strange though since the moral of pretty much every single book of his is understanding, empathy, and compassion.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah he donates a lot of money to anti-lgbt (or "homophobia-adjacent") "special interest groups".

So that means a hard no for me paying for anything he gets royalties for.