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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 47 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure who's she targeting because I know a lot of guys who would love to have birth control pills.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It ain't like pharma ain't been trying to make male birth control pills. Lord knows they'd love the extra money.

But it turns out to be damn difficult to get right.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have made it. Had human trials with effects that killed the trials.

Most of the men in the trials wanted to keep taking it so their partners didn't have to bear that burden alone.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They're referring to this one back in 2016, where the caveat was that it had the same side effects as women's birth control. Since the patient being prescribed isn't the one who will experience negative health outcomes without the medications, the harm of those side effects was deemed by researchers (not the patients themselves) to be greater than the risk of impregnating someone else.

Other hornonal options have come out since then, though not on the consumer market afaik, like this hormonal gel and this pill.

More recently (like earlier this year) its been done without hormones by blocking a vitamin A metabolite that signals the production of sperm.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you read the actual study or FDA report as to why they pulled the trial? High school level Americans fall for sensationalized articles and journalists report on things they are clueless about all the time

[–] causepix@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Idk I was 16 when that came out so actually high school level. Feel free to read the study yourself and correct me? Not sure what you're skeptical about tbh but the belittling is really uncalled for. You asked for a source and I gave one.

The point of sources is so you can see where the person got their information and personally verify what was said, not to unequivocally prove things true or false based on there being a credible source at all.

[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I was kind of an asshole. I’m sorry. I’ll work on that when I have more time to show you.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

and no sane woman should believe that, because if she will later find the guy was lying, it is not going to be the guy having to deal with the consequences. so it is quite stupid take.

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you're having sex with random, unknown, untrusted people, you better use a condom anyway, because pregnancy isn't the worst thing that can happen, so the point is kinda moot anyway.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 days ago

not every situation is as extreme as you make it and while you have a point, it doesn't make mine invalid

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What? You could say that when reversed, but until proven otherwise, women have every rights and the power to chose what happens, unlike men who don't have a say

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who decides if the baby is born? Certainly not the father. And once she has decided it means HE has no choice in the matter.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 days ago

i have no idea how it relates to what i said.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know where you live but in the north, women usually control their bodies and may chose to keep the baby or not, regardless of the father's opinion

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i still have no idea what you are trying argue.

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not here to hold you by the hand. Try chatgpt

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 days ago

i really do not want to hold your hand. you started talking to me, refused to clarify and you are trying to pretend like you "won". how was kindergarten today?

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No sane person should leave something that important to the sole responsibility of someone else no matter who they are.

Eta: Until I turned 30, everyone I knew who had kids was "on birth control"