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[–] ufcwthrowaway@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Damn, he really did democratic socialism dirty saying they don't want the end of capitalism - man still thinks its the Harrington DSA

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i honestly find it pretty uncommon to find a democratic socialist who isnt actually just a social democrat, so i can see where the “democratic socialists dont want to end capitalism” perception could come from— 98% of people in america identifying as democratic socialists say they just want to regulate capitalism and have “the nordic model”. nevermind that the nordic model’s downfall has and will be that you cant regulate capitalism to be fair since capital is power and capitalists will ALWAYS find a way to use that power to control society

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Denmark with its dying welfare state and Sweden with its 20+% youth unemployment rate are truly examples to strive for.

[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

americans don't understand this. they don't understand that the capitalists in denmark and sweden spend every second of their days trying to find ways to chip away at the social safety net and steal that money for themselves, and since the creation of these welfare states that has been the dominant struggle in the nordic countries. of course that struggle is obfuscated by those very same capitalists and it gets turned into "immigrants are the reason your pension is less, not me who stole it from you"

[–] Scarry@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

a struggle that only existed because of proximity to the USSR, and a struggle that after 30 years of 1000 cuts is nearing its predictable end

[–] 10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

yea forced sterilization of non white were so great /s

[–] Llituro@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At least in the states, the ratio has to be something like 1 Rosa to 1000 Eberts

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

In Germany it's even worse I believe 💀💀

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Democratic socialism isnt a thing outside america (most other countries call them socdems) and even name itself betrays its rotten foundations - it calls into existence a „undemocratic“ socialism and implicitly signals its allegiance to „democracy“ aka capitalism. Don’t forget democracy is codeword for capitalism.

[–] Euergetes@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

US 'democratic socialists' are more like feckless Euro electoral socialists, which we could also call social democrats if we wana be spicy but the US lacks the political sophistication for these tendencies to be formally separated

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Demsocs are worse than liberals, obligatory "Der schlimmste Feind" (The worst enemy) by Hans Eisler:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lg1B8iV1L0

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