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[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 74 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Democrats when a republican uses the power of the most powerful position on earth to do things:

surprised-pika 'You can do that?????' followed by them forgetting this fact when 'their guy' is in

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They would absolutely be willing to use this type of power but only to do bad things their donors want

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah Biden literally did it when he sent weapons to Israel. Overruled a bunch of checks that were supposedly supposed to stop weapons from going to countries committing war crimes.

Now imagine if he had done something for student loans, might’ve saved the election for the democrats.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sorry the sweaty the senate parliamentarian(whose 'rulings' can be legally ignored) said no :(

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah love how the mystical parliamentarian prevented a bunch under Biden but the first time they tried to stop Trump he just ignored them and we found out that it was always allowed but the dems didn’t because of “decorum”.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

Same thing happened under the Bush administration. Parliamentarian tried to get in the way and they just fired him

It was known to us the entire time that they were doing the parliamentarian shtick that they could be ignored and replaced at will. They're a powerless Rules Nerd who is there to go "um akshually the rules state..." but that's literally fucking it, they have less authority than a schoolteacher.

But liberals are blueMAGA so when their guy in office and their guys on TV tell them the sky is red they hoot and holler in the ecstasy of the truth. With a Democrat president liberals have part of their brains entirely disengaged such that they are unable to even formulate the concept of a question, much less ask one or investigate whether they're being lied to

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Now imagine if he had done something for student loans, might’ve saved the election for the democrats.

I literally owe interest on my loans almost equal to the loans at this point

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Charging interest on loans for education is crazy too, feel like the bare minimum they could do is just set the interest rates to 0%.

What's fucking crazy is there are a million and a half compromises that we could have had that would have ameliorated the extremity of capitalism's depredations but we are denied even the mildest and most milquetoast reform. And people like me are seen as the crazy, radical extremists even though I'd be totally stoked for something as small as a zero interest loan. Something mutualist anarchists were talking about in America in the fucking 1800s. Well, more like 0.5% interest in their case to pay for the administrative wages and shit to service the loan, but still

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Now imagine if he had done something for student loans, might’ve saved the election for the democrats.

didnt he try and the conservative supreme court struck it down? of course we can talk how the SC got conservative but thats a history lesson.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i don't have the sources handy, but apparently the "approach" to loan forgiveness that the democrats went with was the one that was a lot less tenable and more easy to be struck down. There were other parliamentary approaches they could/should have gone with (if they actually gave a shit) that were more solidly supported

yea of course they could have done quite a bit when they had power, but it's a broken system that is broken on purpose. "Oh no we can't do that because Joe fucking Lieberman exists." WELL THEN KICK HIM OUT OF THE PARTY. Fuck.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago

he tried to do some means-tested half-ass thing instead of just forgiving the federally held loans which would not have been stopped by the court

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The SC ruled he could drone strike the SC and send in Navy SEALs to kill any survivors, but Biden didn't do that because he's a coward.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a series of miracles happens that allows the democratic party to flourish - President Newsome at his inauguration will say...

"I and my fellow Democratic congresspeople are unable to do anything the Supreme Court. Or ICE. Or DHS. Or healthcare. Or our broken federal healthcare institutions such as HHS, CDC, etc. Or federal science funding. Or NASA. We will not be abolishing the filibuster. The list of stuff we don't do is depressing and very long. It goes on for 3 minutes. My aides timed it. But the important thing is I won! And our democracy persevered!"

But Newsome and his fellow Democratic congresspeople will take bold action on privatizing as much of the federal government as they can as they line their pockets for the good of the American People.

[–] vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

IIRC the filibuster was effectively overturned by a procedural change this session. Bringing it back is so on-brand that your bit is still a good one.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

IIRC the filibuster was effectively overturned by a procedural change this session.

I haven't been following the filibuster stuff at all but I think the GOP kept it but created a carve out or two. I have no idea what the actual term for "carve out" is.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

There must be a fancy term. This is congress after all.

Ninja edit. Despite knowing that google would only annoy me - I spent a few minutes googling. Some sites use the term "majoritarian exception". I don't know if that's standardized or not.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

They can just make exceptions when they think it's convenient, been doing that for quite a while now

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The quotes should be around "forgetting", not "their guy".

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

idk perhaps for the leaders, but I honestly don't think it occurs to your average 24hr news cycle addicted lib that the red tape 'tying' the hands of dems when they try to do good things can be ripped like the repugs do when they do their bad things