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[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s significant enough overlap between this being newsworthy and electoralism to end up in either

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even if I conceded American electoralism was newsworthy, maybe post when they are actually doing something or win?

“Setting up to primary” and “rumors of eyeing seats” is not news

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The largest socialist organization in the imperial core setting up to remove prominent national political figures from power is newsworthy on a leftist forum

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

DSA is a liberal org, not a socialist one.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Let’s dissolve the org and take any semblance of the left existing out of the public eye! Being completely unheard of in a nation where legitimacy is essentially doled out for existing in the public eye will be great for base building, I’m sure

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure portraying liberalism as socialism is a valid strategy.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sure portraying even the idea of socialism as nonexistent in the mind of the average proletarian is an even more valid strategy.

[–] fannin@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

I didn’t say we should. I think we should get out there with a message about actual socialism instead of liberalism pretending to be socialism. Calling the modern New Deal socialism is a dead end.

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (27 children)

DSA is the largest social chauvinist organization, the vast majority of its membership are paper only and of those that are active, a large contingent are NATO-loving imperialist fascists. The candidates they have put into congress have consistently endorsed genocide and war. They have no control or recall mechanism either (because they're not an actual political party), so when AOCIA goes full zionist there's nothing they can do about it. We have seen a consistent pattern of the DSA being used as a campaigning tool and then abandoned by careerists. There's no mechanism to actually enforce that they stay principled and don't sell out, so of course the majority will quickly sell out.

Many of the DSA endorsed candidates don't even come from the DSA. They are just people who show up, say "how do you do fellow socialists?" and get a bunch of free campaign volunteers. Definitely not a problematic system that will result in burn out and disillusionment from the membership when the people they worked so hard for win, and then promptly tack to the center and dump the DSA baggage.

"Nooo I didn't mean defund the police and ICE. I was just saying it cause everyone else was. Nooo I didn't mean globalize the intifada, I've learned and I've grown. Look, Israel needs defensive weapons so that they can survive to reform their system and form a two-state solution. Of course Hamas needs to be dismantled first, they are a terrorist organization"

And again, "setting up to remove" is not news. Post when they actually accomplish something

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[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Largest socialist organization in the west? and its the DSA...

Absolute wild statement. Americans truly piss on the floor and call it a flood.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

I mean if we are talking about the imperial core AND its immediate periphery then yeah it isn’t the largest, but I’m clearly talking about the imperial core of the United States of America

[–] DirtyPair@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago
[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah by that definition, all electoralism content could be "newsworthy"

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the news articles about democrats making some kind of statement like “Republicans are fiscally irresponsible and hypocrites about the budgets” and then the headlines of news articles about it are all “Democrat SLAMS Republican in scathing condemnation”

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Or, hypothetically, someone posting in the News mega "mamadani DESTROYS the view on Gaza" and it's him being a liberal zionist again

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A lot of it is newsworthy though

[–] SickSemper@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So why are there two different comms?

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So the news comm doesnt get too filled with too many posts of US (and other countries too) electoral proceses

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Elections and election results from non-core nations are actually relevant news that can impact geopolitics and require analysis. People considering maybe primarying a couple congress people in the core is not.

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

phoenix-think I hate electoral news on my feed so much that I will engage with it for several hours today

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I just wish nerds use that comm more, its a good one plus its a default one

[–] WildWeezing420@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I would like it if it functioned as a quarantine for succs who want to flood my feed with “American chauvinist considers maybe forming a committee to primary the incumbent gubernatorial candidate” for the umpteenth time

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I do often use it. I moderate it! Sometimes I just think certain news could go either way or would rather have different groups engage with it!

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

Squares and rectangles

All news is news, some news is electoralism related, not all electoralism is news.