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[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Your phone has likely much better security for your banking apps than your computer, unless you run really niche setup like QubesOS.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago

You say "security" I say "a bug that won't let me log in". Which is it?

[–] traceur402@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We as a society should be rethinking the term "security", if it's come to mean submitting to being jerked around however best suits some private company's interests instead of our own. If there's a central platform for its security benefit it should be democratically controlled instead of controlled by what are effectively feudal lords, or perhaps even an occupying force

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago) (1 children)

The security I am talking about has nothing to do with being locked down. Linux could easily implement the same, but it probably never will, because it requires a bit of central management and vision. And Linux really struggles with that.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 1 points 3 minutes ago

You're responding downthread of QubesOS being mentioned

Sure it's hard to get that kind of security onto mainstream distros. But it exists.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

I'm not sure how it works the way where you live but where I live, the way the banking apps are implemented completely violate MFA. They rely on SMS verification which is absurd since if you're phone is already compromised, no doubt your SMSes are too. There's no true multi-device authentication in place and this has led to a huge number of victims being scammed after their devices get compromised by a phishing attack.

The desktop and phone are both insecure, proper security should not have all your eggs in one basket.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

Well, yes. But then again, I would trust my GrapheneOS phone not getting compromised over 3 linux devices. MFA is not some ultimate solutions and it is a pain to use.

Yeah, SIM swaps are a concern too.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

The phone is not insecure because of all eggs on basket.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Which is the point. Why do we need this security when the most virus riden PC can access my banking website.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 55 minutes ago

That’s a good point, time to ban banking websites and only allow people with locked-down phones to bank.