192
Zelensky confirms Israel sent Patriot missile battery to Ukraine, says more coming in fall
(www.ynetnews.com)
this post was submitted on 27 Sep 2025
192 points (93.6% liked)
World News
50054 readers
1775 users here now
A community for discussing events around the World
Rules:
-
Rule 1: posts have the following requirements:
- Post news articles only
- Video links are NOT articles and will be removed.
- Title must match the article headline
- Not United States Internal News
- Recent (Past 30 Days)
- Screenshots/links to other social media sites (Twitter/X/Facebook/Youtube/reddit, etc.) are explicitly forbidden, as are link shorteners.
-
Rule 2: Do not copy the entire article into your post. The key points in 1-2 paragraphs is allowed (even encouraged!), but large segments of articles posted in the body will result in the post being removed. If you have to stop and think "Is this fair use?", it probably isn't. Archive links, especially the ones created on link submission, are absolutely allowed but those that avoid paywalls are not.
-
Rule 3: Opinions articles, or Articles based on misinformation/propaganda may be removed. Sources that have a Low or Very Low factual reporting rating or MBFC Credibility Rating may be removed.
-
Rule 4: Posts or comments that are homophobic, transphobic, racist, sexist, anti-religious, or ableist will be removed. “Ironic” prejudice is just prejudiced.
-
Posts and comments must abide by the lemmy.world terms of service UPDATED AS OF 10/19
-
Rule 5: Keep it civil. It's OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It's NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
-
Rule 6: Memes, spam, other low effort posting, reposts, misinformation, advocating violence, off-topic, trolling, offensive, regarding the moderators or meta in content may be removed at any time.
-
Rule 7: We didn't USED to need a rule about how many posts one could make in a day, then someone posted NINETEEN articles in a single day. Not comments, FULL ARTICLES. If you're posting more than say, 10 or so, consider going outside and touching grass. We reserve the right to limit over-posting so a single user does not dominate the front page.
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
Lemmy World Partners
News !news@lemmy.world
Politics !politics@lemmy.world
World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world
Recommendations
For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/
- Consider including the article’s mediabiasfactcheck.com/ link
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
This is the most illogical and ahistorical shit I’ve read all day. The only way you can frame the genocide of the Palestinians as defense against an evil entity is if you want to arbitrarily start history at a point decades after Israel began killing and displacing millions of people. That’s the same sort of intellectual dishonesty that Russia has used to fabricate historical rationalizations for their invasion.
Where did you source this data? Based on mainstream sources (UN, OCHA, B'Tselem) the number of Arabs displaced from modern day Israel/former territories of Mandatory Palestine from '47 until 2025 are between 995 - 1'105'000 and the number of casualties 67 - 105'000.
As a comparison, the number of Jews displaced from Arab countries during the same period number somewhere between 800-900'000.
Here's the Lancet with a conservative estimate of 186,000 (7.9% of the population) between Oct '23 and May '24, obviously this money will be higher by now.
It's very difficult to count, because non-Palestinian journalists aren't allowed to enter, and Palestinian journalists aren't allowed to continue being alive.
Interesting although contentious letter detailing an estimate of potential indirect conflict deaths (it includes potential future deaths).
However, it seems rather simplistic and/or flawed. They simply multiply the casualties Hamas have reported by a "conservative" x4 multiplier which then gives their number. The multiplier comes from this publication and states that most of the casualties are "indirect and caused mainly by preventable infectious diseases, malnutrition, and neonatal- and pregnancy-related conditions that emerged in the resource-poor post-conflict environment." - which means that this number includes post-conflict casualties that have not yet happened and are preventable. Furthermore, the base number already includes a lot of indirect civilian deaths, and unlike the other conflicts that the x4 multiplier comes from is heavily reported on and followed by media/authorities.
This article from Die Welte is more recent and examines a more robust study.
Still, even if we took the estimate provided by the Lancet here at face value, OP's claim of "millions of people" looks like absurd misinfo to me.
You're entitled to your opinion on the matter of course. And the saddest realisation is that because of the industrial scale of the killings, human lives are a rounding error and we will never know the true number.
It looks like about 140000 Palestinians killed between 1948 and 2023, with about 40000 more confirmed since 2023. My source is the Palestinian Central Bureau for Statistics.
In addition to that, millions (yes millions) of Palestinians have been displaced, including two million since 07.10.2023.
So when op said:
They were 100% correct, in fact. There is not a shred of absurdity in this claim, and it can't be considered misinformation.
Yeah, them being pissed at Russia and then backing the Middle Eastern equivalent of Russia is some serious cognitive dissonance shit
That country is providing them with air defense missiles, so... (yes, it's a shit situation)